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Posted Thu Mar 8, 2012, 11:59am
Subject: Fiorenzato Bricoletta "back ordered" Heating Element Replacement Advice
 

This is my first post as a member, though I've very often come in desperation late at night to troll your archives for wisdom.

Here is my minor nightmare-- now just starting its 3rd week of total espresso deprivation. I have a late 2006 tank model Fiorenzato Bricoletta. A couple of weeks ago with the kindly diagnostic help of Jim at 1st Line via email in his telegraphic style, a bad heating element was isolated as the most likely suspect for its symptoms (lights on, pump working, reset unavailing, multi-meter indicating power reaching the heating element, but machine dead ice cold, and so on).

Unfortunately, the current version of the 1800w 115v Fiorenzato heater that Jim imports is and (has evidently been) out of stock for a while. New supply is meant to come in a container by ship, with an ETA of at least 2 more weeks, but maybe 4. Having lived in Italy for some years, and spotted a recent post here about Fiorenzato using the word "chaos" about parts supply from them, I am slightly panicked by the thought that 2-4 weeks could become 6-10 or who knows.

Accordingly, my first question is might anyone here have a spare working original Bricoletta heating element in a parts drawer or a dead machine?

Second, and more strictly on topic for a post here (especially since I am pretty far from being a skilled professional repair tech), I do NEED to take apart the machine and remove the boiler before making my attempt to unscrew the threaded heating element? Right?

My thinking here is that the heating element is screwed in VERY tightly (and since the boiler has no independent anchor to hold in place other than its various pipes and wires), nothing very good can come of addressing the element whilst in place. On the other hand, with 8 separate connections to deal with, followed by the very awkward dance of extracting the boiler from this maze (which I did about three years ago to replace a bad brain) is rather a pain-- to put it mildly. I wouldn't mind so much IF I had a replacement on hand and absolutely 100% knew the element was the problem. But under the circumstances, if there's any not so obvious safe trick/shortcut-- perhaps known to someone here who's worked on this machine--I'd be grateful indeed to know.

Finally, does anyone know by chance-- if all else fails-- of an ideal alternate heating element that is readily available? I assume the rub here is the fact the element is threaded to the boiler.

Any advice greatly appreciated.  

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Posted Thu Mar 8, 2012, 12:25pm
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guyless Said:

Finally, does anyone know by chance-- if all else fails-- of an ideal alternate heating element that is readily available? I assume the rub here is the fact the element is threaded to the boiler.

Any advice greatly appreciated.  

Guy

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The only element that seems close to comparable is a Brasilia 1800w threaded element. It appears to be much thicker than the Fiorenzato though and is also on backorder. Not to mention that you'd have to find out if the threads match.

Maybe you'll get lucky and someone's shop will have one lying around.

- James

 
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Posted Thu Mar 8, 2012, 1:24pm
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". . .One lying around someone's shop"-- succinctly expresses my most heartfelt dream right now. Thanks for the post.

IF anyone is interested or needs it, I do now have the machine apart and could post a photo of the element. --Guy
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Posted Thu Mar 8, 2012, 1:29pm
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guyless Said:

". . .One lying around someone's shop"-- succinctly expresses my most heartfelt dream right now. Thanks for the post.

IF anyone is interested or needs it, I do now have the machine apart and could post a photo of the element. --Guy

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If you'd like to email me one I can forward it to my guy and see if he has any ideas.

 
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Posted Thu Mar 8, 2012, 1:40pm
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That would be better than great. Will your "public" email address work?
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Posted Thu Mar 8, 2012, 1:48pm
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Just in case an actual photo of the element (definitely NO continuity) will inspire anyone to search drawers or make it easier. Here it is:

guyless: Bric Heat Element.jpg
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Posted Thu Mar 8, 2012, 1:57pm
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guyless Said:

That would be better than great. Will your "public" email address work?

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Thats the one :)

 
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Posted Thu Mar 8, 2012, 2:17pm
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Alas, the Verizon Online Postmaster (or gmail) is being uncooperative. The address in your profile does look a tad long and weird (attempted mail with it exactly as is, and then removed various words starting with "REMOVE"). g
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Posted Thu Mar 8, 2012, 2:23pm
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Any chance that it's a standardized screw thread at the top, such as 1"?

If you can't find anything, anywhere, specific to the machine then perhaps a Google search for "immersion heater" might find a replacement that is "close enough"? Checking of course for voltage, power, length, etc. as well as the thread size.
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Posted Thu Mar 8, 2012, 2:49pm
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guyless Said:

Alas, the Verizon Online Postmaster (or gmail) is being uncooperative. The address in your profile does look a tad long and weird (attempted mail with it exactly as is, and then removed various words starting with "REMOVE"). g

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Just take out everything in caps except the first letter "s".

 
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