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CraigA
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Posted Thu Oct 13, 2011, 11:14am
Subject: Re: calling all Sylvia experts and techs. Boiler open pics
 

Internal shot of old style boiler. {:-)

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Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
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Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Thu Oct 13, 2011, 11:23am
Subject: Re: calling all Sylvia experts and techs. Boiler open pics
 

stefano65 Said:

A little suggestion
inspect the lower bottom half of the boiler for warping (and possibly small airline cracks) before investing in all the other parts

Posted October 13, 2011 link

Thanks. I will look again at the lower part. It has been cleaned to as new condition and I didn't see anything of concern, but it never hurts to be sure.

 
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Espresso: PID/PressureMod 2001...
Grinder: BUNN FPG-2 DBC, Baratza...
Vac Pot: Bodum Santos manual, Yama 5...
Drip: Behmor BraZen, BUNN VPR-APS,...
Roaster: Refurb Behmor 1600, BBQ...
Posted Thu Oct 13, 2011, 11:26am
Subject: Re: calling all Sylvia experts and techs. Boiler open pics
 

Did you see what I added for you Wayne in my above two posts (especially the 1st?), thanks.

 
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Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Thu Oct 13, 2011, 11:28am
Subject: Re: calling all Sylvia experts and techs.
 

stefano65 Said:

if you are refering to a Over Pressure Valve
there is indeed a OPV valve, on the pre 06 is not adjustable,
after 06 is adjustable
both are with a silicone hose going back into the reservoir

Posted October 13, 2011 link

Thanks again, the opv you mention is there and it seems to be operating well but this may be the time to replace the fixed one with an adjustable one...more money! LOL.

The spring loaded safety pop off valve is the one I could not see, with good reason, it does not have one.

 
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Espresso: PID/PressureMod 2001...
Grinder: BUNN FPG-2 DBC, Baratza...
Vac Pot: Bodum Santos manual, Yama 5...
Drip: Behmor BraZen, BUNN VPR-APS,...
Roaster: Refurb Behmor 1600, BBQ...
Posted Thu Oct 13, 2011, 11:34am
Subject: Re: calling all Sylvia experts and techs.
 

calblacksmith Said:

Thanks again, the opv you mention is there and it seems to be operating well but this may be the time to replace the fixed one with an adjustable one...more money! LOL.

Posted October 13, 2011 link

Best place for the adjustable OPV valve is here: http://www.espressoparts.com/R_1406?&search_id=989741

I have it on my 2001 Rancilio Miss Silvia.

 
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Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Thu Oct 13, 2011, 11:36am
Subject: Re: calling all Sylvia experts and techs. Boiler open pics
 

Craig, yes I did, thank you so much, I hate tro waste a perfectly good casting due to "poor" design. I know it likely was done to make things easier in the supply chain. I have no problem cutting, drilling or moding the one I have now to fit the replacement ellement. What do I have to loose?

Any help I receive iw warmly welcomed. Those of you who have been down this path before know where some of the trouble spots are.
I have made all these latest posts on my phone so it takes a while to type out, with many errant key strokes!

 
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Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Thu Oct 13, 2011, 11:41am
Subject: Re: calling all Sylvia experts and techs. Boiler open pics
 

jlhsupport Said:

I was hoping as such but still had to write something to reach the one less-than-experienced person who may come across this thread and interpret that the boiler was safe to use.

Posted October 13, 2011 link

Yes, that was the proper thing to do. I edited my reply post to you to reflect that, thanks again for keeping safety first.

 
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Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Thu Oct 13, 2011, 1:24pm
Subject: Re: calling all Sylvia experts and techs. Boiler open pics
 

On my way home, my mind started to wander and that could be trouble!

I have two brand new Expobar thermoblock espresso machines that I have less than$150 in both.

They use 1000w dry heater elements that I might be able to modify to fit inside the Sylvia boiler in place if the stock heater. I think it should be nearly as quick acting as the submerged heater that comes stock while eliminating the danger of running the boiler dry forever. That is exactly the way it is used in the Expobar.

I need to check but I think the water pump will interchange as well, so I would have a new pump to install. It also uses CME 3way and steam actuator valves.

I might be starting to see a Frankinsylvia taking place! I have little money in the Expobars and scrapping one for parts would cost a lot less than buying new Sylvia parts while the down side isn't much more than a little time. In the worst case, I just buy the Sylvia replacement boiler half.

I won't get to play with it for a while as I am out of town tomorow and won't get back to my office (and thus the boiler parts there) until Monday. This could be a fun experament for not a lot of money!

 
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Espresso: PID/PressureMod 2001...
Grinder: BUNN FPG-2 DBC, Baratza...
Vac Pot: Bodum Santos manual, Yama 5...
Drip: Behmor BraZen, BUNN VPR-APS,...
Roaster: Refurb Behmor 1600, BBQ...
Posted Thu Oct 13, 2011, 4:54pm
Subject: Re: calling all Sylvia experts and techs. Boiler open pics
 

Wayne, here's the heating element from 1st-line, not cheap though!

Pic courtesy of 1st-line.

CraigA: Rancilio heating element.jpg
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Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Fri Oct 14, 2011, 7:20am
Subject: Re: calling all Sylvia experts and techs. Boiler open pics
 

Craig, WOW!

The element alone is about the same price as the whole replacement kit!

That gives me even more insentive to insert a sleeve into the boiler I have and change the assy to a dry system, the cost of failure is only a little time as the price of the parts are just about the same to replace the stock heater element or the whole half boiler!

 
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Wayne P.
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