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SteveSeattle
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Posted Sat Feb 20, 2010, 12:01am
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia steam wand on a Saeco Aroma?
 

Update:  I've ordered a Silvia steam wand from Espresso Parts, Inc. in Olympia, WA.  It should arrive sometime next week.  I remain  skeptical but I hope that I can make this Silvia/Saeco steam wand swap thing work.  Mumma Family say they did it, so I'll give it my best shot.  I'll keep a record on what I find, photos too.  AND I'll be sure I remember so that I can pass it on to all you Seaco Aroma owners.  More as it happens.
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SteveSeattle
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Posted Tue Feb 23, 2010, 8:32pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia steam wand on a Saeco Aroma?
 

Next Update: Below is a photo of the Aroma and Silvia steam wands side-by-side.  The line shows the underside of the Aroma case.  So far, this looks like a challenge.  I remain skeptical.
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Posted Tue Feb 23, 2010, 8:36pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia steam wand on a Saeco Aroma?
 

I am on pins and needles.

Remember, we went through the side of the case.  So you will be able to mount the steam wand above the underside of the case.  Does that look feasible?  It seems like it from the photos.

EDIT:  Also, Steve, if you get in the weeds, let us know and we will open ours up and give you the info you need.  It is just that we have 5 very closely spaced kiddos, so remembering relatively small matters/details is very difficult for us.  I really do think it will work.  Did you figure out the fittings yet?  Can you post what you will do there?

EDIT from Dave: you have to measure to make a hole in the side of the machine, use a drill bit and then you can change the hole with dremmel tool.  You'll have to possibly "stack a couple of o rings on the sylvia wand to make a tight fit in the steam valve.  I don't remember if I used the sylvia nut or the nut from the machine, you will have to check the threads on the sylvia and  see if they are the same, if not try to use the nut that was with the old wand.  It really is a simple mod and should not be any trouble.

 
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SteveSeattle
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Posted Tue Feb 23, 2010, 9:18pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia steam wand on a Saeco Aroma?
 

TheMummaFamily Said:

I am on pins and needles.

Remember, we went through the side of the case.  So you will be able to mount the steam wand above the underside of the case.  Does that look feasible?  It seems like it from the photos.

EDIT:  Also, Steve, if you get in the weeds, let us know and we will open ours up and give you the info you need.  It is just that we have 5 very closely spaced kiddos, so remembering relatively small matters/details is very difficult for us.  I really do think it will work.  Did you figure out the fittings yet?  Can you post what you will do there?

Posted February 23, 2010 link

Thanks for the input.  Seeing the wands side-by-side does help me to start thinking it through.  I now see what you meant about cutting through the side of the case.  It's totally feasible but I'm not sure I want to do that just yet.  Not that I can't but it would seem a shame to deface my baby.

I haven't got as far as the fittings yet, that's my next step.  I'll keep up the progress reports and pics.
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Posted Tue Feb 23, 2010, 9:34pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia steam wand on a Saeco Aroma?
 

TheMummaFamily Said:

EDIT from Dave: you have to measure to make a hole in the side of the machine, use a drill bit and then you can change the hole with dremmel tool.  You'll have to possibly "stack a couple of o rings on the sylvia wand to make a tight fit in the steam valve.  I don't remember if I used the sylvia nut or the nut from the machine, you will have to check the threads on the sylvia and  see if they are the same, if not try to use the nut that was with the old wand.  It really is a simple mod and should not be any trouble.

Posted February 23, 2010 link

I wasn't sure if you saw this edit from Dave.  This should make it far more clear than I ever could. (He is so awesome! <3)

 
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Posted Tue Feb 23, 2010, 10:04pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia steam wand on a Saeco Aroma?
 

I'm not familiar with your machine, but couldn't you just take the original wand, cut threads in the end, and use any tip you wanted ?

it looks like it is the common 6mm tubing
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Posted Tue Feb 23, 2010, 10:12pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia steam wand on a Saeco Aroma?
 

Yes that would work too, but the Silvia wand gives you more clearance for steaming.

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Posted Mon Mar 15, 2010, 8:21am
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia steam wand on a Saeco Aroma?
 

Its good to see that this is a fairly recent endeavor.  I just bought a friend of mine an Aroma (that has not arrived yet) and was looking to do the same mod. I have read (and re-read) the posts, but I guess I am not able to visualize what the cutting of the hole on the side is for. I'll get the machine by the end of the week and am ordering the silvia wand in faith that it will work, but I was hoping that you had more pictures of the process of putting the wand in and the final product.

Cheers

 
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Posted Mon Mar 15, 2010, 10:10am
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia steam wand on a Saeco Aroma?
 

solvealways,

Welcome to CoffeeGeek and  I like your signature a lot!

A quick and dirty answer to your question is that the wand to the Silvia is shorter than that of the Aroma, so putting a hole in the side allows you to give it an outlet that is an inch or two (?) higher than the bottom of the machine.

Also, it should be noted that the v1 arm in this modification will not articulate, as it is at the side of the machine.  

I hope that is a helpful answer,
MaryAnn

 
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solvealways
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Posted Tue Mar 16, 2010, 4:01pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia steam wand on a Saeco Aroma?
 

TheMummaFamily Said:

solvealways,

Welcome to CoffeeGeek and  I like your signature a lot!

A quick and dirty answer to your question is that the wand to the Silvia is shorter than that of the Aroma, so putting a hole in the side allows you to give it an outlet that is an inch or two (?) higher than the bottom of the machine.

Also, it should be noted that the v1 arm in this modification will not articulate, as it is at the side of the machine.  

I hope that is a helpful answer,
MaryAnn

Posted March 15, 2010 link

Thanks!  I have been following some posts for a while, but since I am moving into the espresso machine field, I figured I just stepped on the other side of crazy, so I better sign up with all the other loonies and see how to navigate through this world a little easier ;)

I suppose I'll have to see the pics to visualize it.  My aroma comes in on thursday and I'll probably order the steam wand friday. I think once I start the process it will make sense.  Im interested to see what became of Steve's.

 
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