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networkcrasher
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Posted Tue Sep 30, 2008, 1:00pm
Subject: Small Rotary?
 

Anyone have any experience with these?

http://www.becktech.co.uk/fot_tmfr_rvp.php
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Posted Thu Oct 2, 2008, 5:54am
Subject: Re: Small Rotary?
 

Looks interesting
but just a consideration
if you are retro fit to a vibrating pump unit
silicone hoses will not hold the pressure
so you will have to replace them with
s/s braided or copper etc etc
will be nice to get a sample one from fluid-o tech
i see what i can do

 
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Posted Thu Oct 2, 2008, 11:25am
Subject: Re: Small Rotary?
 

Bit confused...while I use braided hose on both, my vibe pump puts out ~160 and is regulated at the opv while my hx rotary is regulated at the pump pre-hose at ~135 psi. Why would the rotary need stronger hose?

 
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Posted Thu Oct 2, 2008, 12:05pm
Subject: Re: Small Rotary?
 

I thought the same and all I could come up with were the connections to the rotaries are usually threaded.
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Posted Fri Oct 3, 2008, 5:01am
Subject: Re: Small Rotary?
 

My head was in the plumb in manual I was writing,
silicone hose for non plumbed in will do just fine
regarding the pump
so far i find out that Brasilia used to mount them in some of their unit years ago
and nothing more

 
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Posted Sat Oct 4, 2008, 5:46am
Subject: Re: Small Rotary?
 

networkcrasher Said:

Anyone have any experience with these?

http://www.becktech.co.uk/fot_tmfr_rvp.php

Posted September 30, 2008 link


Sure:
  1. Greg Scace has a lot of experience using one.
  2. I've got one sitting on my workbench downstairs, but haven't installed it yet
  3. A certain famous barista in London is reputed to be using one as we speak.

 
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Posted Sat Oct 4, 2008, 6:07am
Subject: Re: Small Rotary?
 

AndyS Said:

Greg Scace has a lot of experience using one.
I've got one sitting on my workbench downstairs, but haven't installed it yet
A certain famous barista in London is reputed to be using one as we speak.

Posted October 4, 2008 link

Humbling ....Very.....humbling.

Just when I think I know a bit about coffee.

Hats off to you gentlemen, I stand in awe.

 
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Posted Fri Oct 10, 2008, 10:19am
Subject: Re: Small Rotary?
 

Network Crasher asked "Anyone have any experience with these?"

Some basic information on the TMFR series is available here:  http://www.fluid-o-tech.com/  - see their PowerPoint presentation also.  Don't forget to take into consideration the size of the control module (inverter).

The TMFR series is also available from Depco Pump Co. here in the US.

A potential problem with this series is that the control module has a 50 degree C limitation so internal installation would be a little touchy.  You may be able to buy a unit direct from FOT (USA) but it is relatively expensive - ~$375.  Then, if you are going to do variable pressure profiling like Greg S. admirably did, add in the cost of a pressure transducer and a controller for the FOT control module - about $300.

That said, FOT deserves lots of credit for bringing something like this to the marketplace.  I can only hope for the day when I'll be able to program an EEPROM in the FOT module via a PC and build whatever pressure profile I want.

Get out those wrenches Andy S. - we want to read about your adventures.
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Posted Thu Oct 16, 2008, 8:22pm
Subject: Re: Small Rotary?
 

Got a Procon off eBay with a 1/3hp motor (that's HUGE) for a nice price.  It's a 1 series Procon flange mount, and it seems that while it will work in the motor I received, but I'd like to locate a smaller motor.  I figure a 1/4hp would be plenty.  The SPA motors on espresso parts look really nice, but pricey at over 200 bucks.  I just came across this Flojet though.. Anyone ever try it?  It's called a triplex and will get over 10bar...

Click Here (www.flojet.com)

I'm not sure if it's considered a rotary, but the motor would suggest so.  I wonder if it'd work.. The specs show that it'd work for espresso.  Seems interesting anyway.
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Posted Thu Oct 16, 2008, 8:25pm
Subject: Re: Small Rotary?
 

Oh, and it's optionally variable speed.. :)
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