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bob_fris
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Posted Fri Jan 24, 2014, 3:33pm
Subject: Lever Purchase Advice
 

Greetings,

I'm looking to get a new (to me) espresso machine ($600 budget) and am strongly considering a lever and was hoping to get some advice.

Some basic info: I currently have a Gaggia Coffee, make 1-2 espresso drinks a day (more on the weekend) and roughly 1/2 or so are milk based.  I'd like to see this number go down but the wife likes her lattes and I gotta keep her happy!

My first thought is go with a Europiccola but I keep finding myself researching and scouring ebay for Arrarex and La Peppinas. I love the look and simplistic/minimalistic approach of these and I'm thinking If I keep the Gaggia close by I can steam on that and pull shots on the LP or Arrarex (or similar lever).

I have access to metal/fabrication shop and work engineers/fabricators that dig helping me with the occasional one-off personal project so rebuilding equipment isn't a big scare (yet!).

What would you get if you were in my shoes?

Thanks!!!!!
Bob
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Posted Fri Jan 24, 2014, 5:56pm
Subject: Re: Lever Purchase Advice
 

Hi,

The Europiccola is a great choice for someone getting into home lever machines. But before getting into further detail on machines, what grinder are you using? This should be your first consideration if you're looking to improve quality in the cup. Are you using fresh roasted coffee?
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Posted Fri Jan 24, 2014, 8:48pm
Subject: Re: Lever Purchase Advice
 

Thanks for the reply! I'm currently using an OE Lido and beans are home-roasted. Eventually I'd like to upgrade to a dedicated espresso grinder but I seem to get pretty good shots on my current machine with the Lido. Think a Europiccola would do ok on that?
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Posted Sat Jan 25, 2014, 11:03am
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With a 600 budget,  I'd try to find a used Caravel.
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Posted Sat Jan 25, 2014, 8:40pm
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z0mbie Said:

With a 600 budget,  I'd try to find a used Caravel.

Posted January 25, 2014 link

That was exactly my thought BUT the OP wants to be able to steam milk as well unless I misunderstood.
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bob_fris
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Posted Sat Jan 25, 2014, 10:15pm
Subject: Re: Lever Purchase Advice
 

I do need to steam milk but I'm not against the idea of using the Gaggia for milk steaming.
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Posted Sat Jan 25, 2014, 10:26pm
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bob_fris Said:

I do need to steam milk but I'm not against the idea of using the Gaggia for milk steaming.

Posted January 25, 2014 link

Get your self a used lever machine, and buy a frothing wand.  They aren't hard to use and can froth milk just as good and fast as a conventional steam wand.. Heat up time is only a minute (for the milk).
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Posted Sun Jan 26, 2014, 3:30am
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look for an export or lusso
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Posted Sun Jan 26, 2014, 9:06am
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JZY Said:

look for an export or lusso

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+1

The Export is a smaller unit; the Lusso has the big boiler.
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Posted Sun Jan 26, 2014, 2:02pm
Subject: Re: Lever Purchase Advice
 

How about a gaggia achille?

I bought one for $350 as a project...but had a change of heart and gave it up. Seller eventually sold it for $400.

OP has a workshop so I presumed he can fix the achille's prob.
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