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Barristajedi
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 6:10am
Subject: La Pavoni Pre-Millenium Group head Gasket???
 

Does anyone have a source for a gasket for the group head (not round O-ring) .  

All of the gaskets are rounded O-ring types and I was wondering if there was  source for a squared off gasket like the La Pavoni  factory one?

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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 6:25am
Subject: Re: La Pavoni Pre-Millenium Group head Gasket???
 

If you are talking about the gasket which goes between the group and the boiler, they start out round and become square over time with use.
Good sources for parts for these are Orphan Espresso orphanespresso.com and Stefano's Espresso Care espressocare.com.
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 6:38am
Subject: Re: La Pavoni Pre-Millenium Group head Gasket???
 

I know those both and use them-Orphan espresso is great!.  But I was watching a good tear down video on You-Tube and was reading many comments that the round gasket leaks since it does not provide a full seal:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzbb34nzmEU


Any experience with this??

Again thanks!

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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 8:34am
Subject: Re: La Pavoni Pre-Millenium Group head Gasket???
 

Francesco Ceccarelli has a good photo of all the seals at Click Here (www.francescoceccarelli.eu)
Another page on his site (taken from Dr.Pavoni) gives o-ring sizes:  http://www.francescoceccarelli.eu/La_Pavoni/Dr_Pavoni/immagini/sealrepl.html , and is mirrored in his own page Click Here (www.francescoceccarelli.eu)
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 9:03am
Subject: Re: La Pavoni Pre-Millenium Group head Gasket???
 

Helpful info.  Thank you.  

But it still doesn't answer the question on gaskets.  Since the La Pavoni factory gasket is squared off and the other in the Youtube video is not.  I just don't want to tear down the machine and put in the wrong gasket and have it leak?    It may be best to send it out but where is a good place and not too expensive  Orphan Espresso?

I could probably use a new boiler gasket too since it leaks a little at the base from time to time?   I could change all the gaskets??


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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 4:02pm
Subject: Re: La Pavoni Pre-Millenium Group head Gasket???
 

The factory part, as you call it, is an O Ring for the pre millennium machine.    The oldest machines having a brass cylinder sleeve use a square gasket.   Millennium machines used an o ring at first and changed to a flat on one side gasket.   You may purchase the factory millennium flat gasket and it will not fit the pre mill group.   You may purchase the brass sleeve gasket and it will not fit.   You may purchase the factory part for your machine and the factory will send you an o ring.

The La Pavoni engineers aren't as influenced by random YouTube videos as some.   Fiddling with one machine does not make someone an expert in parts fitting, but with enough trial and error he may get his problem solved but likely he did not make a video showing that the millennium gasket did not work in his machine.

Orphan espresso does not offer machine service or repairs.
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 4:54pm
Subject: Re: La Pavoni Pre-Millenium Group head Gasket???
 

Thank you for clarification.  Do you sell a full seal kit for the pre-millennium machines?  I watched your video on stripping down the La Pavoni so hopefullly with that and a good diagram I can replace the seals?  Any other suggestions for seal replacement?

I was just being cautious since I didn't want to buy the wrong part and o-rings can be a big issue.  I don't you if you scuba dive but wrong size O-rings can ruin a whole dive and if your o-ring blows on your valve on your 1st stage you aint diving so sorry for being a little paranoid.  It just as very confusing on what was the righ O-ring.

I just purchased your cleaning kit so I plan to clean my machine so I should replace all the seals too-since it is leaking at the group head and the at the base??



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Posted Mon Nov 11, 2013, 5:37am
Subject: Re: La Pavoni Pre-Millenium Group head Gasket???
 

Yes, the round gasket may leak because it doesn't fit exactly. I have read similar on this problem and most of the errors are on the La Pavoni machine. Maybe a machine manufacturer doesn't provide the exact gasket as being ordered. I even knew from somebody's experience that he even cut with a razor and ran the blade around the inner edge of the gasket just to trim down the rubber a bit and to sit down a bit further when it slides into the dispersion screen that inserts up into the group head.

As what I have known, most of the machine manufactures today is not offering service repair. I doubt if they are particular in providing you with the right gasket as what you had order to replace the old gasket. Better make some special adjustment by seeking assistance to some expert on gasket and o-ring just to fit in exactly and seal your La Pavoni head.

 
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Posted Sun Dec 1, 2013, 5:36am
Subject: Re: La Pavoni Pre-Millenium Group head Gasket???
 

I rebuilt a 1973 europiccola and was getting a ton of leaks from around the portfilter. I researched the group head gasket a LOT and found a square cross-section one like what it sounds like you saw on youtube at orphan espresso. They were really good, I was very impressed.

Prior to finding them I also bought the round cross-section gasket and cut my own additional gasket form sheet rubber that I bought from a rubber store (it was tempting from them on just to cut my own gaskets but I'm too lazy). The leak was actually related to the basket being deformed at the top so IT wasn't sealing with the gasket- check for that too. Once I bought a new basket I could use either the round or square cross-section gasket without any leaking.
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