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Posted Sat Jan 4, 2014, 10:47am
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First of all let me say my memory was not only flawed but I did not mean 6 oz of milk, I meant steam milk for a 6 oz latte.  

And having recently filmed other videos, I agree that my suggest 8 seconds for 6oz must seem preposterous.    I just remember it was very fast so perhaps I was steaming 4 oz for a 6 oz latte.   But you are correct on the 6 oz takes a little over 20 seconds.

My apology for being overly enthused about the performance.   I don't steam my milk hot, only warm with nice microfoam, which is how I enjoy my latte best.  So perhaps that might contribute a seemingly fast steam time.  

When I get a chance I will steam 4oz of milk and see how long it takes and actually put some facts down instead of innuendo.
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Posted Sun Jan 12, 2014, 4:41am
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So, I did some tests on my Cremina.. it takes 8 seconds to steam 4 oz of cool water from my fridge. I ran out of milk :(...  I suspect it will take probably 2 or 3 additional seconds for cold milk.
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Posted Tue Feb 4, 2014, 5:25am
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I am currently considering adding a GS/3 to my lineup. I have been using a Cremina for over two years now and love the experience (and espresso). So I'm very curious to know if the OP is happy with the new GS/3?
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Posted Thu Feb 13, 2014, 5:03am
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uscfroadie Said:

Please make a video showing that along with your pour and tell us what boiler pressure and steam tip/wand you are using.  Neither of my Creminas came anywhere close to that, even when at 1.3 bar and with both the stock and new steam arm/tip.  A little over 20 seconds is more like it in my experience.

Posted November 28, 2013 link

Okay I finally got around to doing a video demo of how fast my Cremina can steam milk.  

Forgive the latte art, I had way too much coffee and had pretty much zero dexterity.

http://youtu.be/8ImRdY3Ldoo
http://youtu.be/t3V9fWODGAc   (I over stretched the milk on this one)..


BTW, My Creminas have different tips.. but they both have four holes and perform identically. Not sure which one is the original or if they are both original from different years..  The wand tip on the left is on my '84 and right one is on my '86.

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Posted Thu Feb 13, 2014, 6:35am
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Salvatore Espresso Systems has announced a new piston lever machine, offering as a plumb-in as well as a reservoir water supply version. Appears to be a HX design, different to the Cremina.
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