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duckdog
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Posted Tue Aug 20, 2013, 7:51pm
Subject: La Pavoni 8 or 16 or something else?
 

Hi guys i am new to the site and so new to espresso that i do not even have a machine yet! I am looking at a lever machine because i like the more hands on approach and old school way of things! I have pretty well ruled out anything but a lever machines because a lot of what i have read says that you can pull some of the best shots that you ever drink off of a lever machine. that is when you do your part of corse! I already have a Rancilio Rocky Grinder so i feel like i am set for now on the grinder. My questions are is having the gage and the extra water volume in the La pavoni 16 worth the extra cost? i would 90% be making one drink at a time, but there might be time i want to make a few at a time. I guess what i am asking is how may drinks(i.e. shots and frothed milk) can you make on the 16 vs. 8 b4 you have to shut it down and refill? also It seems that you can find the 8's used pretty often at a good price but not so much on the 16's which makes the 8's more appealing from a price stand point. however i don't want to get the an 8 and be frustrated because i have to refill it after making two drinks. i would rater spend the money for the 16 then buy an 8 and not be happy. Or are there other lever machines in this 1000 and below price range that are better then the la pavoni? Thanks for any help God bless!
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Posted Tue Aug 20, 2013, 9:11pm
Subject: Re: La Pavoni 8 or 16 or something else?
 

I'm new to espresso machines, and using them for 6 months.

I started with a Baratza Vario grinder.  Has a good reputation and easy to dial in grinds so far.

My first real machine was a used NS Oscar semi-auto.  Great machine, easy to use, great espresso and steam.  Added a naked portafilter to 'perfect' my extractions.  Cost with my repairs and portafilter for about $500, but you can do better sometimes.  It was a great learning platform; teaching me what flavors could be produced, crema, etc.  I still have it, and break it out when I need great espresso.  Took me 2 weeks to be making pretty good espresso regularly doing 3-4 shots daily.

My second machine is a La Pavoni Pro 1984.  I'm still learning 2 months in, making the same 3-4 shots daily.  If I didn't have the experience with the Oscar first I might have settled for lesser quality espresso.  The last 2 weeks I've finally learned this machine well enough to make consistent, good shots; now working on improving overall quality.  Again, for me the Oscar experience pays off here.

Personally, I like the pro/16 size Pavoni for boiler size.  I'd recommend experience with a semi-auto machine too, but if you know what you're after that's most important.  If I have problems with a new coffee bean I fire up the Oscar to run some test shots; still not good enough on the La Pavoni to troubleshoot well there.

If you are interested in a large lever community be sure to check out home-barista.com.  Lots and lots of lever opinions and information over there too.
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Posted Sat Aug 24, 2013, 3:25pm
Subject: Re: La Pavoni 8 or 16 or something else?
 

Thanks for the help! i found a good deal on ebay for a used La pavoni 8! not exactly what i wanted but but i got it for a good price i thank!
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