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nickyny
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Posted Wed Jul 10, 2013, 10:33pm
Subject: Help with my new Elektra!!
 

Hello guys,

I confess that I'm a noob in lever machines and I just got my Elektra MCL. I encounter problem with it that when I pull the lever to the bottom, the coffee just comes right off like water and the lever pops back instantly when I lose grasp of it without even a trace of "slowly moving back"...

Can anyone tell me what's wrong with it? Was it my grind too coarse? I swear I lock the portafilter to the right position and the pressure seems right.

Thanks a million!!

Nicky
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Posted Thu Jul 11, 2013, 2:54am
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Most probably, the grind is far too course or the dose is too little.

Follow the instructions in the link and if you're still not extracting at a time of 20-30 seconds, grind finer.

Alternatively, is the water hot enough?

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Posted Thu Jul 11, 2013, 5:41am
Subject: Re: Help with my new Elektra!!
 

The step-by-step instructions provided in Sam's link are excellent.

Maybe you can tell us what kind of beans and which grinder you use. Have you dialed in the grinder properly?

 
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nickyny
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Posted Thu Jul 11, 2013, 7:04am
Subject: Re: Help with my new Elektra!!
 

Thank you Sam for your reply!! I used Capresso Infinity and I switched to the finest grind already and yet it can still be way to coarse for the machine?
As for the water, doesn't the red light at the bottom right just switch off when the temperature and pressure is ready?
For the beans, I really just used some random beans that's been there for a while. I really wanted to just try to get familiar with the machine first.

Again, thank you so much for helping!!
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Posted Thu Jul 11, 2013, 7:20am
Subject: Re: Help with my new Elektra!!
 

nickyny Said:

I used Capresso Infinity and I switched to the finest grind already and yet it can still be way to coarse for the machine?

Posted July 11, 2013 link

I doubt that the Capresso Infinity is consistently able to grind fine enough for espresso. If you look at the description given on SeattleCoffeeGear's homepage, it states expressly that it is not an espresso grinder, too. I guess it's commonly agreed upon on this forum that the Baratza Preciso is the entry level electric grinder suitable for espresso.

nickyny Said:

For the beans, I really just used some random beans that's been there for a while.

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Further more, it sounds like your beans are stale.

 
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Posted Thu Jul 11, 2013, 8:49am
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Thank you so much for helping!!!
So at this moment, do you suggest me buy some ground beans and have a try? I've read posts saying that Capresso can be good enough for espressos, but yeah, definitely when I looked at the ground I doubted if they were fine enough. But is it like...lever machines have high criteria for coffee ground?

But thank you so much again!!
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Posted Thu Jul 11, 2013, 11:50am
Subject: Re: Help with my new Elektra!!
 

Absolutely not! What you should do is trade in the Infinity for a decent grinder and get some freshly roasted beans. Pre-ground coffee never works.

 
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Posted Thu Jul 11, 2013, 2:46pm
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Ahhh you're absolutely right!! Thanks a lot :)
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Posted Thu Jul 11, 2013, 8:00pm
Subject: Re: Help with my new Elektra!!
 

Re: "As for the water, doesn't the red light at the bottom right just switch off when the temperature and pressure is ready?"

Actually, no.

When you first turn on the MCAL, the red light will go off and the gauge will indicate that you are at proper operating pressure when you have only had the machine on for six to ten minutes. This is a false indicator. Use the valve on the steam want to bleed off the pressure (you'll probably see it drop rapidly), then close the valve and wait until about the twenty minute point before you start to pull your shots. The heater (indicated by the red light) will cycle on and off depending on the pressure in the reservoir.

You'll need to sink some money into a good grinder to get the performance you want. If you are only doing a few shots a day, you might consider a manual grinder.
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nickyny
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Posted Thu Jul 11, 2013, 9:57pm
Subject: Re: Help with my new Elektra!!
 

Thank you so much for the information!! As for a manual grinder, I think it's a great idea budget wise! Do you have any recommendations? I was wondering if a Turkish mill would be too fine for this machine...

But again thank you so much!!!
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