RaisinBrahms Senior Member Joined: 25 Apr 2013 Posts: 1 Location: Vancouver, BC Expertise: Just starting
Posted Thu Apr 25, 2013, 11:57pm Subject: Pre-Millenium Europiccola Value
I'm new to the forum, but I'm hoping to keep my espresso learning curve going here!
I've been looking at purchasing a pre-millenium Europiccola as the topic suggests, but I'm wondering about how much one of these machines should really cost in decent condition so I know if I'm getting ripped off or if it's a good deal. I searched around for a while tonight but I'm not coming up with much of an idea so my advice would be very welcome.
russel Senior Member Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 445 Location: Los Angeles Expertise: Professional
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Posted Sat Apr 27, 2013, 9:09pm Subject: Re: Pre-Millenium Europiccola Value
I think that a Pre-Millenium Europiccola in good condition is a good deal at $300 (and an even better value at that price). Any more than $450 for a vintage Europiccola and it should border on a collection quality machine. Avoid machines missing anything other than the driptray/grate, machines with damaged/rusted bases, and anything that doesn't heat up. I personally avoid all black base models as a rule. This is my general sense of things having repaired and restored a lot of LP machines.
I personally have no interest in ever spending more than $300 on a vintage Europiccola, but I've always been lucky with them and have lots of parts and seals on hand for repairs. I will say that I really don't like the vintage 49mm LP PFs with the little handle, and would rather buy a machine without one at a $50-$75+ saving that could then be put towards a modern sized 49mm LP PF or a Penny bottomless one. However, a missing 49mm PF usually means missing 49mm baskets, which aren't as cheap to replace as one would like. You should also expect to have to replace the group/PF gasket. It's best to just get a complete set of group seals from OE because you will eventually have to replace those vintage ones, and the machines runs so nicely with new seals and fresh lube.
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