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BLrdFX
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Posted Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:37am
Subject: Re: Londinium
 

ShooterMcGavin Said:

Absolutely jealous!!
Curious... were you hit with a customs fee?  

Congrats on the new machine!

Posted December 19, 2012 link

Not for the stuff so far!  Stay tuned for an update soon as the L-I is in Cincinnati, or was this morning @ 0248hrs and is still there now, according to DHL, @2046hrs.  UPDATE: Still sitting in Cincinnati for a "Clearance Delay".  Weather?  Destroyed the shipping box?  Looks like I need to call DHL :-(

In the meantime this showed up from Reg Barber with the proper diameter.

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Drip: Chemex
Roaster: Quest
Posted Thu Dec 27, 2012, 4:03am
Subject: Re: Londinium
 

ShooterMcGavin Said:

Absolutely jealous!!
Curious... were you hit with a customs fee?  

Congrats on the new machine!

Posted December 19, 2012 link

UPDATE:

No Customs Fees on any of the 3 boxes I have received from Londinium, including the big one, the L-I.  In spite of the strange way of notification without giving you a projected arrival date DHL did come through.

The machine performs as advertised.  I ordered the tank model with the intent of testing the tank system and then immediately switch over to silent running with the direct plumb kit.  Tank testing done and I can say that the vibe pump is no louder than the rotary pump on my LM GS/3, just a different sound.  I am currently waiting for the brass adapters to arrive so I can hook it up to the home water line.  They should arrive by this weekend.

The shots were good right from the start.  It took 3 tries with the grinder to find the sweet spot; oddly it was a more course grind than my LM GS/3!!!  But not by much and I have done the testing so far with the Versalab grinder.  Next week I start in with the Mazzer Kony once I settle in on a S.O. or a Blend of beans.  I have tried 5 different bean and blends.

The heat up time is less than my GS/3, considerably.  

The steam power is tremendous and steaming a larger pitcher is no problem at all and it happens FAST!  Just like my GS/3.  I suspect that unless you really knew what you were doing the 2 hole tip might be best for a small foaming pitcher.  The L-I does not have the steam power to steam large quantities for groups of people without taking a break, but for the time it takes to clean the portafilter, weigh a new dose, grind that dose and tamp it the boiler has recovered.  The GS/3 has steaming power like crazy since it has a steam boiler as well as a brew boiler, it also is 3 times the money...

The water wand is a real blaster and takes a fine touch to get water without causing something that you might find in Yosemite.  The GS/3 has it really beat in that department, but the L-I works if you are careful.

Pulling the lever is a breeze.  After trying the Bosco Lever in Seattle I would say it is similar, and maybe a bit easier, but I could just be getting used to it.  I used the bathroom scale method of trying to figure out how much effort it took and found 24 pounds to be an average number.  Certainly more effort than throwing a switch but much more rewarding :)

The 58.3 tamper is nice since it saves a bit of time in the NSEW business but the standard 58 Flat that I had on hand works too, just slower.

The baskets that come with the machine are fine, and in fact the puck almost falls out.  I usually just shake it above the knockbox and out it comes no hitting something required.  I have tried the VST baskets and they work but for some reason they want to "Sneeze" so I suspect they retain a bit more pressure and require a longer wait in the group?!?

I can hardly wait for the brass water line adapters to show up at my door....  Then a video of the procedure will be generated.

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Posted Thu Dec 27, 2012, 12:42pm
Subject: Re: Londinium
 

Sooo very green with envy.

 
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Posted Thu Dec 27, 2012, 5:06pm
Subject: Re: Londinium
 

Coffeenoobie Said:

Sooo very green with envy.

Posted December 27, 2012 link

I had to liquidate 2 hobbies for this one so it is a wash financially, with the exception I did not consume my wife's kitchen counters with the old hobbies :)
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Posted Thu Dec 27, 2012, 6:34pm
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BLrdFX Said:

I had to liquidate 2 hobbies for this one so it is a wash financially, with the exception I did not consume my wife's kitchen counters with the old hobbies :)

Posted December 27, 2012 link

:>D

 
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Location: Port Orchard, Wshington
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Espresso: L-I
Grinder: HG-1E mod, VL/terranova,...
Drip: Chemex
Roaster: Quest
Posted Fri Dec 28, 2012, 9:26pm
Subject: Re: Londinium
 

Well, the brass water line fittings arrived and now I have Silent Running!  Wow, what a great thing, it is truly a lever machine now.  

It took some doing to get the correct fittings and now it works, although I am still not happy because the hose that came with the machine has a metal elbow fitting on the end that is for running the machine plumbed but with the pump installed for low water pressure situations.  I did not need that so I am going to modify the setup to eliminate that hose and put an American 3/8 compression supply hose on it.

In case nobody knows of this place, it is a good source for such fittings.  http://www.espressoparts.com/variousfittings
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Roaster: Behmor 1600+, CO/UFO combo
Posted Fri Dec 28, 2012, 9:37pm
Subject: Re: Londinium
 

BLrdFX Said:

It took some doing to get the correct fittings and now it works, although I am still not happy because the hose that came with the machine has a metal elbow fitting on the end that is for running the machine plumbed but with the pump installed for low water pressure situations.  I did not need that so I am going to modify the setup to eliminate that hose and put an American 3/8 compression supply hose on it.

In case nobody knows of this place, it is a good source for such fittings

Posted December 28, 2012 link

click here

Wanted to give you a working link!

 
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BLrdFX
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Location: Port Orchard, Wshington
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Espresso: L-I
Grinder: HG-1E mod, VL/terranova,...
Drip: Chemex
Roaster: Quest
Posted Sat Dec 29, 2012, 4:59am
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Thanks Rob!

Happy New Year.

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Posted Tue Jan 8, 2013, 9:18am
Subject: Re: Londinium
 

How is the new machine working so far?

 
Coffeenoobie

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Oscar trick out: http://s156.photobucket.com/user/GandBteam/story/14231
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BLrdFX
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BLrdFX
Joined: 29 May 2012
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Location: Port Orchard, Wshington
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Espresso: L-I
Grinder: HG-1E mod, VL/terranova,...
Drip: Chemex
Roaster: Quest
Posted Tue Jan 8, 2013, 6:25pm
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Coffeenoobie Said:

How is the new machine working so far?

Posted January 8, 2013 link

I like it very much.  The sounds of silence and simplicity of the machine made it worth the wait.

The stock baskets work just fine.  I have tried several VST baskets and found no difference.

The vibe pump that comes with the pump version is about as noisy as my GS/3's rotary pump!  Just a different tone.

I disconnected the vibe pump and removed it from the case/machine and plumbed it into my home filtration system.  That system is an Everpure EOS7.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEdhh4xEd5E

Not a great video but you get the idea.  I probably should have had the music turned off so the sound of silence could be heard, except the grinder.
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