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Beangod
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Posted Tue Mar 27, 2012, 6:15pm
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DeLonghi ECO310

Initially when I got this thing I didn't think it was possible to get the milk right, plus theres some sort of fake-crema device which gives a fairly solid top for the shot. I had to play with it a fair bit but I finally managed to make a decent looking coffee.




Anyway this thread's for those of you that manage to do something with lower end machines(bad/weak steamwands, dodgy shots)!

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Posted Thu Apr 19, 2012, 2:48am
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Hi BeanGod,

I recently bought an ECO310.B, I'm having difficult times making microfoam... It seems that u got the microfoam right to make an decent art. May I ask what milk do you use and how did you manage to make microfoam with this machine??

CJ =]
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Posted Sun Apr 22, 2012, 3:04pm
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Bean- Great looking cup!
I too have the eco310 and honestly, paired with a good grinder you can get great espresso out of this. I have a baratza preciso, and after depressurizing the portafilter I get good shots on a consistent basis. Frothing was MUCH more difficult to learn on this machine than on my old "steam toy". I have found that removing the outer sleeve on the nozzle is the only way to get good results like yours. With the portafilter depressurized, the crema is much thicker and more stable, and pours are much easier. I have posted my journey on my blog here
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Posted Sun May 13, 2012, 3:49am
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Good for you. Itís really a great deal if something inexpensive does what you donít expect it to doÖ 
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Posted Tue May 15, 2012, 11:24am
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Okay, I'll bite.   I just reached the point where I can get latte art quality textured out of my modified BAR32 a couple of weeks ago, and I'm obviously still learning to pour, but I have had some reasonable successes.  

Consistently great espresso is still eluding me, but I've decided not to put any effort into fine tuning that until my NS Oscar arrives,  since I'd be starting over anyways.

Keep in mind, these are little tiny (proper) 6oz double cappuccinos, which I think makes the art pretty tricky since the pour happens FAST.  I decided early on that I would only pour what I (or someone) would drink, and not waste anything for the sake of practice.  Cap's what I drink so cap's what I pour... :)


This is the first cup I ever saw any contrast in, and my GF decided to etch it :):

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Posted Tue May 15, 2012, 11:24am
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And...

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Posted Tue May 15, 2012, 11:28am
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And finally,

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Posted Fri May 25, 2012, 12:04am
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Love it! I've been using cheap machines all my life, and there is no reason why you can't produce some decent art :D
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Posted Thu May 31, 2012, 8:05am
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Hi!

I'm struggling making a good-looking shot with my Saeco Aroma.

Getting the milk right is part of the problem; frothing is difficult. I've read somewhere that removing the 3-holed cap would help, but I couldn't make it work... It looks like it's not powerful enough - anyone can comment?

I also know that my grinder is not good enough; I have a Breville and at the smallest grind it still is to coarse... Shots go through in less than 20 seconds - they pale in the first 10 seconds. But they still produce crema even though I removed the pressure gadget in the PF (BTW, this makes a huge difference in the taste and texture - positively).

If I ever manage to pull a good-looking one with these tools, I'll let you know! (I can't affort a better grinder/machine these days).

If anyone has hints because they think it's possible, please contribute :)

Michel
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Posted Mon Jun 11, 2012, 1:28pm
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I've got the DeLonghi ECO310.R, and struggled at first to get decent foam etc.

I stripped out the pressurisation in the basket, which improved shots. Also, experimented with extraction by making a naked portafilter, with which I can make a much more full-bodied and richer shot.

I can actually make acceptable microfoam now even with the panarello, but have better results by using my altered panarello which I've hollowed out and blocked up the air inductor at the top. Steam power is definitely limited like this, but I can get a better quality foam eventually that way (taking care not to burn up my boiler). I've got details of my mods here

I think it just takes a lot of patience to get it right!

As it happens, I've got good enough at making shots with it now that I've gotten bored and now upgrading to a Silvia/Vario combo which will arrive this week.


PS: this is my first post, I hope I haven't broken any of the rules :/
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