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randompacking
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Posted Fri Jun 29, 2007, 6:04pm
Subject: Is latte art possible with a steam "espresso" machine?
 

First off, I am new to the whole espresso thing, and this is my first post. I am using my father's Krups steam machine that is similar to a "Krups FND111 Allegro Espresso Maker" (I know, this isn't real espresso).

My goal is to produce some latte art. I have read up on the guides on proper frothing techniques and downloaded some videos. I have varied the amount of stretching during frothing from minimal to copious. I cannot seem to achieve anything close to the latte art that I have seen.

My question is this: Is it possible to achieve latte art with a steam machine that I am using? This machine does not produce any real crema. Is crema required for latte art?
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Posted Fri Jun 29, 2007, 6:21pm
Subject: Re: Is latte art possible with a steam "espresso" machine?
 

You're trying this all wrong.  Before you can want latte art, you have to (have to have to have to!) be able to make good  espresso and good milk.  I don't care what anyone says, latte art should be the least of everyone's worries until they can make fantastic espresso and stretch excellent milk.

Latte art is just an aesthetic enhancement to a drink - it's not the end all, be all of lattes.
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Posted Fri Jun 29, 2007, 7:13pm
Subject: Re: Is latte art possible with a steam "espresso" machine?
 

randompacking Said:

First off, I am new to the whole espresso thing, and this is my first post.

Posted June 29, 2007 link

Welcome to coffeegeek!

randompacking Said:

My goal is to produce some latte art. I have read up on the guides on proper frothing techniques and....

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Latte art is indeed very cool, and when I started out I really wanted to learn it myslef.  It took me months of practice!

randompacking Said:

My question is this: Is it possible to achieve latte art with a steam machine that I am using? This machine does not produce any real crema. Is crema required for latte art?

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Crema isn't absolutely necessary, and some of the good latte artists can make latte art in hot chocolate or drip coffee. It certainly can be done, but it's more natural when you have some crema to work with. In any case it often takes months of practice to get the hang of it.  

ericnorby Said:

Latte art is just an aesthetic enhancement to a drink - it's not the end all, be all of lattes.

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Eric's right.  Latte art on a cup of crap is just a very attractive cup of crap.  strive to make something drinkable first!



If you really want to learn the art, go work in a shop that makes good espresso and learn from the baristas.  Having a teacher makes the process go much faster.  It's harder than it looks, but once you get the hang of it then it becomes natural.  

Good luck!  And again, welcome to coffeegeek!

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Posted Sun Jul 1, 2007, 10:07am
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Thanks for all the info and encouragement. It seems that I need to start saving up for a good grinder and machine. I will also read up more on espresso production and steaming techniques. Thanks again for your help.
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Posted Tue Jul 3, 2007, 7:42am
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I am also relatively new to espresso. I purchased my first (more than pod) machine from WLL. I have had my Gaggia Espresso for over a year, which coincidentally, is the same amount of time I have been ready for an upgrade. Take my word for it. Buy up. You will regret not doing it to begin with.
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