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kamran
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Posted Thu May 15, 2014, 6:51am
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i will see what other hand grinders he have !

seems delonghi is so horrible :D

seems grinding is super important ! , i remmber when i had mokapot the grind size wasn't really a issue for me , it tasted 10x times better :) btw at the time i had moka pot i didnt even know the coffee im making is named espresso ! (when i was 10 ! i just used 2 - 3 spoons of espresso + 1 complete cup of water !

also i will try to ask someone to bring me one, are you sure hand ones are good? and they aren't hard for 1 cup ? + do they grind size setting?
whats the cheapest ok electric grinder for me that haven't really tasted real espresso? just want to see if i can manage to buy it !
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Posted Thu May 15, 2014, 9:59am
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Last Question ,

If delonghi burr is the Only thing I find , I should buy it or stick to using preground? I know it's not good but if its only one here !
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Posted Thu May 15, 2014, 10:27am
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well not really, fresh ground beans will still be better vs preground, even in a poor grinder like a Delonghi etc. Personally I would use a Hario Slim or Skerton on Amazon or Ebay. That is a hand grinder but will be much better than a Delonghi or any similar cheap electric grinder. Plus those cheap electric grinders have horrible retention so you should weigh your dose to make sure your getting the right amount of grinds each time. Since your using a pressurized portafilter machine, I don't know how much a Baratza Encore cost over there but that is hands down the best "low end" electric grinder for the $. It's about 130 or so here, and much better than an Infinity Capresso or Bodum etc

Even with your Moka, fresh ground beans will make a huge difference over stale preground. Usually Moka grind is somewhere between espresso and drip.
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Posted Thu May 15, 2014, 11:12am
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I'm not sure that he looked at your profile to see which machine you're using, but Wayne (Calblacksmith) did a pretty good job of describing your situation when he talked about pressurized portafilters.

The DeLonghi 250.B, with its "crema filter" and other limitations is a machine that won't benefit from a "better" grinder in proportion to the grinder's cost.  Please understand, that's not a criticism of the 250.B, a sneer, or an opinion -- it's a "just is."  The only thing that matters is that you're enjoying yourself.

Just about any burr grinder using good quality, appropriately fresh beans will work as well as any other.  If DeLonghi is the only brand available to you -- don't worry about it.  A DeLonghi will be fine.  

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Posted Thu May 15, 2014, 11:23am
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Delonghi will be fine as long as you stay with the pressurized portafilter, but if you change to non-pressurized, it will not be adequate.

Not all hand grinders are created equally.  At the extremely high end is the HG one, which is better than most electric grinders on the market, but costs about $1,000 US.  We're not suggesting that.  or even the high end Rosco grinder which is available in Australia for (iirc) about $500 US....or even the OE Pharos which goes for just under $250 US.  The list continues down in price and quality, and what we're suggesting is that you have, within your reach, a good quality hand grinder for under $100.  I use a hand grinder for my non-espresso preparations.  I have the OE Lido, which I bought new for $165, and it takes me just under 1 minute to grind a single cup's worth of beans.  I know people through this site who use a Hario for their espresso and they report good results.  I don't think it takes them much longer than me to grind their beans for each preparation, so it's not as challenging or useless as you are thinking.  Your friend in Boston should be able to bring you one of those, as they're lightweight and relatively small.  I estimate the box to be about 10cm square by about 15-20cm tall.

I know it's discouraging to have to go with a hand grinder, but I really don't think giving up is the right choice.

 
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Posted Thu May 15, 2014, 11:59am
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Thanks  for help guys ;)

I will out delonghi on my last option !! Maybe I will go to my coffee shop and see what I can do!
Might even not find delonghi grinder but anyway I see what I can do !! There's 1% chance that my aunt in Boston can bring it for me, its not about size only !!! Also I was thinking of getting a non pressurized of for my current machine !

Will tell you if I managed to buy a decent grinder ;) or any

Edit : I found this on internet :o gastro something 42602 professional coffee grinder !
Click Here (www.garda.ir)

Anyway I'm going to check stores my self after my exams ( 1 month!)
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Posted Thu May 15, 2014, 12:15pm
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If you replace the basket to be non-pressurized your going to need a real espresso grinder that will cost a lot more then what your looking to spend so keep that in mind (save for a hario hand grinder that is cheap and passable for espresso, the Skerton you can do the step less mod for to be a lot better). Krups makes a replacement basket that fits the Delonghi machines.

Keep that in mind
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Posted Thu May 15, 2014, 12:19pm
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Now , I don't really think I will , is non pressurized of worth it ?  And can hand ones make espresso for non pressurized? I got a little confused sorry ! If not I will probably stick to pressurized ! At least for now
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Posted Thu May 15, 2014, 12:43pm
Subject: Re: Delonghi burr grinder, is it good?
 

yeah, hand grinders will be fine for pressurized. the whole point of the pressurized pf is to allow one to make "espresso" with a cheapo grinder or preground beans...but if you can get a decent grinder even better.  the only things is you may have to grind a little coarser until you can "de-pressurize" your pf.  

first step though is to get the grinder.  
second step is to get beans roasted within 2 weeks of you having them in your hands.
third step is to dial in the proper grind.

 
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Posted Thu May 15, 2014, 1:04pm
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I ment non-pressurized/normal ones , are hand grinders good enough for that?

Also the beans I get are already roasted!

I heart many bad reviews for delonghi grinder anyway ! Getting damaged after 3 months.... :O
I will see what happened ! Maybe get  good or handed one ;)
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