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drmikenz
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Posted Sun Apr 27, 2014, 7:21pm
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Hi everyone,

Hopefully a simple question, had a Silvia/Rocky combo for about 14 years, just bought a VBM Domobar super and am thinking of upgrading to a better grinder. I'll be using it 90% of the time for espresso with the occasional aeropress once or twice a week. My two choices for grinder so far are the M4 and the Mazzer Mini. I've heard great things about the step less M4 but am I right in thinking that changing the grind occasionally is a pain and I'm better off with the Mazzer ?

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Posted Mon Apr 28, 2014, 7:31am
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Short answer is NO - not better off with the Mazzer Mini, and...yes - changing the grind that far occasionally will indeed be a PIA.  Better answer is, get one of those two (if that's what you want to upgrade to), and keep the Rocky for your Aeropress use.  FWIW, I had a Rocky for several years before getting the MACAP M4 and wow, what a difference it made!

I've now got two M4s and a Mazzer Major.  IMHO, the MACAP line is built as well as the Mazzer line, easier to adjust and the doser cleans itself much, much better without any tinkering. The downside of the M4 is the chute holds a lot of grounds.  Easy enough to get a brush in there, once you remove the finger guard though...but you have to bump (run it just for a second between chute sweeps) the grinder several times to really clear out the burr chamber. Of course, the grind quality doesn't compare to the Major, but then...who'd expect it to? From all I've read, the M4 and Mini are about equal in the cup.  That said, there's quite a bit on the forums about dropping a Super Jolly burr set in the Mini to improve the grind quality noticeably.

 
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Posted Mon Apr 28, 2014, 8:53pm
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Thanks, I think i'll go for the MACAP, however its already been enough of a task to get my wife to agree to spending as much as our first coffee machine just on a grinder so not sure if I can keep the rocky as well, might just use my Hario hand grinder for Aeropress instead.
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Posted Thu May 1, 2014, 7:23am
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drmikenz Said:

Thanks, I think i'll go for the MACAP, however its already been enough of a task to get my wife to agree to spending as much as our first coffee machine just on a grinder so not sure if I can keep the rocky as well, might just use my Hario hand grinder for Aeropress instead.

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I've tried the Mazzer Mini E Dosserless next to the M4 and like the Mazzer a lot more.  I now have the SJ burrs and concur that it made a difference but that may just be due to time to change the burrs anyhow.  That being said - I am familiar with the Mazzer and use it daily so am a lot more comfortable with it.  

The motor will last forever and it's easy to clean - swap the burrs out for new ones.  Might be a good idea to look for used.
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Posted Thu May 1, 2014, 6:00pm
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Thanks for the advice, unfortunately in NZ the price of the Mini E ($1500 NZD) is almost twice that of the M4 ($849) which puts it firmly outside my price range.
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Posted Sun May 4, 2014, 5:34am
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Unfortunately multiple grinds = multiple grinders :(

You may want to get a high quality espresso grinder and also get a high quality hand grinder (Kyocera CM-50 or Hario Skerton) for your "other/occasional" grinding needs until you can get enough $$$ together for a good electric brew grinder also. The Kyocera CM-50 and Hario Skerton are the same grinder with different badges (different names on the box) and very respectable hand grinders for occasional coarser grinding.

You really do not want to use the same grinder for espresso and ANYTHING else as it is a real pain to dial a grinder back to a perfect shot once you have opened it up to the point of making a good coarser grind.   It does not matter which espresso grinder you end up with, changing the grind setting way up and way down is not easy to do without a LOT of waste.  You will be throwing away a lot of coffee as you try to redial it back into an acceptable espresso grind.  Just not worth it (in my estimation anyway)
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