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Posted Sat Mar 1, 2014, 1:56pm
Subject: Re: Vario-W mod to catch grinds from chute straight into portafilter basket ???
 

Funny, I just posted a similar topic on the home-barista.com forum.

I already have the OE funnel that was suggested, and I really like it.  I've also bent my PF basket retainer spring so that it's just tight enough to allow me to turn it over and knock the puck out, but it's VERY easy to remove. So although I'd prefer to grind directly into the basket IN the handle, removing the basket wouldn't be a deal-breaker.

Seems one could fabricate a stand that would hold either the PF handle, basket, and funnel--or at least the basket and funnel. If just the basket and funnel, the stand could be made to weight exactly the same as the original bin, right? Just thinking "out loud".

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Posted Sat Mar 1, 2014, 2:23pm
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eastbaysanfranman Said:

I'd like to see some more talk on this as well. I've been told once that if you pour from the container into the basket, you are causing clumping.

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I never noticed any.  Pic of double check of Vario-W dose weight. Spot on

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Posted Sun Mar 2, 2014, 8:24am
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On the W, you can remove the catch bin, press and hold Tare. This will allow the grinder to just run you when you press start. this is used to adjust the burns when the grind goes off.
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Posted Sun Mar 2, 2014, 5:42pm
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Everyone, thank you - great info (as expected, but still thank you).

The vast majority of the time I'd only be making espresso for myself but it's a great point that if I put velcro onto the scale to hold my contraption I may have trouble dealing with getting it off if I decided to use the bin. The bin might slide onto the scale over a layer of velcro, but it's better not to chance it. Directing the grounds from the chute to a basket sitting on the scale might be a better idea, instead of bringing the basket to the chute. It just might end up being easier that way as well. I could see a chute extension of some sort velcro'd from above, the chute being removable to allow use of the bin. Hmm.

I'm looking at the funnels, I could go that route, but I'd like to use such a device to help steer the grounds to the basket from the chute instead of for helping when pouring the bin out. It's silly perhaps but I just don't want to pour from one to the other, I hated that with a Capresso and I'm stuck on the matter of not going back to that. It may be silly but I'm just not going to do it. The Orphan Espresso funnels / cylinder are intriguing and just might work.

If it matters, I have a bottomless portafilter and an oversized "triple" basket that easily pops in and out, there's not much to it. I tend to grind directly in the basket, screw with it, place the filled basket into the PF, then tamp. So I don't need to hold the whole PF up to the machine, just the basket. I may change my method some day so the questions around this, while perhaps not an issue today, are still thought provoking.

I do have to consider the non-W and going time based. I guess it wouldn't be that much work to dial in the correct time and believe that the grind weight would just follow suit. My standard morning procedure is to make an espresso for drinking ASAP and then punching out an Aeropress into a mug to bring to work. The Aeropress can handle a slightly larger or smaller amount of grinds to help be sure the hopper is emptied out daily. I typically have several different coffees on hand and like to mix it up a lot, but I could easily enough just use them up sequentially, which would allow me to just choose a setting and leave it alone for a week or two.
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Posted Sun Mar 2, 2014, 5:50pm
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Well, since a Vario-W was in the refurb section of the Baratza online store, I went for it.

I'm confident I can make something work for me, especially with access to metal working equipment and 3-D printing. Combining parts from a Vario non-W portafilter holder, onto a modified replacement Vario-W bin, could be something as well.

So the grinder is on order. If I come up with a solution I'll report back in case anyone else goes a similar route.

Thanks again for the ideas / opinions!
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Posted Sun Mar 2, 2014, 10:01pm
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tracerbullet Said:

Everyone, thank you - great info (as expected, but still thank you).


I'm looking at the funnels, I could go that route, but I'd like to use such a device to help steer the grounds to the basket from the chute instead of for helping when pouring the bin out. It's silly perhaps but I just don't want to pour from one to the other, I hated that with a Capresso and I'm stuck on the matter of not going back to that. It may be silly but I'm just not going to do it. The Orphan Espresso funnels / cylinder are intriguing and just might work.

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Not sure I understand,. There is no "transferring using the OE small funnel in your basket. Just grind the amount you want by weight. The funnel will keep the grind safely in thje basket. Tap down gently once, and remove the funnel. Distribute evenly, tamp, and there you go.

 
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Posted Mon Mar 3, 2014, 5:23am
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Ahh, got it. The OE funnel seemed too short for that, it seemed that even with it the basket might be too far away from the chute and I'd have coffee dust everywhere. I was picturing it more just for dumping out of the bin to keep it in the basket. If it's enough to just go direct then - that's perfect! Thanks for the clarification.
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Posted Mon Mar 3, 2014, 6:29am
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tracerbullet Said:

Well, since a Vario-W was in the refurb section of the Baratza online store, I went for it.

I'm confident I can make something work for me, especially with access to metal working equipment and 3-D printing. Combining parts from a Vario non-W portafilter holder, onto a modified replacement Vario-W bin, could be something as well.

So the grinder is on order. If I come up with a solution I'll report back in case anyone else goes a similar route.

Thanks again for the ideas / opinions!

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For what you want to do you need the standard Vario not the weight based grinder.

I'm pretty sure you will be disappointed with the weight based model if you want to bypass the grounds hopper.  You will be fighting the grinder every time you use it the way you describe.

See if you can call them on the phone and cancel your order (my suggestion).

They almost always have the standard Vario models on their refurb list so just keep looking every day.

Really what you are after is the Forte AP which allows you to weight based grind directly into the porafilter.

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Posted Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:09am
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I hear you, I do, but - I think the funnel idea will be OK and if not I'll just dump the bin into the PF if I have to. And $450 is much better than $800-900 or whatever, not to mention it's already shipped!
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Posted Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:21am
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I haven't used a Vario in several months, and then it was only to help a friend while at his house for a BBQ.  However, I'm wondering if you've seen the Schectermatic Schnozzola, which was designed to fit into the exit hole of a Mazzer doser.  I ask because what you've described sounds a lot like one, and I would guess, you could modify Andy's design to fit your Vario. Maybe not though?  However, it's something to look at, and perhaps, even if just a simple mod of it wouldn't work on the Vario, perhaps it might trigger an alternative idea that would?

 
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