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ODandy
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Posted Sat Feb 15, 2014, 5:19pm
Subject: Newbie: Grinder Help Plz :)
 

Hey There!

I figured I'd reach out to the community at large. I'm just beginning my espresso journey and I'm stuck on which grinder would suit me best.
I purchased a Gaggia Classic and now I need to find a grinder. I have a few ideas of what would work but I'm torn. I threw a post in the BST forum asking about a Rocky or a Preciso in case someone wants to get rid of one for a good price.

In retrospect though I'm not even sure I need something that serious. I don't really want to spend more then ~$200 or $250 on a grinder, I also don't want one that will suck and not deliver on a nice shot of espresso (Which I'm not sure I'd even be able to tell at this point, as I said earlier I'm a noob)

So guys I'm at your mercy, what should I do? Would a Baratza Encore work fine? Or should I go for something pricier and nicer? (much to my wifes chagrin haha)

Thanks :)

Mike
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Skylar
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Posted Sat Feb 15, 2014, 5:31pm
Subject: Re: Newbie: Grinder Help Plz :)
 

lelit pl53 $269.  FOR ESPRESSO ONLY.
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Posted Sat Feb 15, 2014, 5:32pm
Subject: Re: Newbie: Grinder Help Plz :)
 

About the most "bargain priced" grinder that makes acceptable espresso (fine and consistent enough time after time) would be the Baratza Preciso and even this I recommend with trepidation.

You Don't say what you are now using so I have no starting point to work forward from.

I have my Preciso set to be a brew grinder for coarser grinding tasks (not fine espresso or turkish).  The internal adjustment is all the way to the coarse side so I doubt I could even get a decent espresso grind with it closed all the way down now.

Others have commented that the Preciso is acceptable as an espresso grinder and I know for a fact that it is great for coarser grinding as that is all I have ever used mine for since I have other grinders for espresso.

If you can put together more money you will have more choices but at your price point there is not a lot out there that you will hang on to for very long (i.e. you'll be looking to upgrade very soon after you get it out of the box)
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ODandy
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Posted Sat Feb 15, 2014, 5:39pm
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I actually have no grinder now, so my starting point is quite low I guess haha. What would you guys say is an acceptable starting point i.e I won't want to replace it immediately?

I would like to add that I also have a French press so it'd be nice if I could do a coarse grind for that once in awhile.
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D4F
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Posted Sat Feb 15, 2014, 5:47pm
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I have a Gaggia Classic with the Preciso grinder.  I think that it works well and have had mine for two years.  I was able to purchase the Preciso refurb factory direct and that was about $250 shipped in CONUS. Your prices may vary as well as available grinders.  You will need very fine steps or stepless for espresso and that leaves out the lesser priced Baratzas, as well as many other brands.  Avoid Rocky for that reason unless you like to mod to make it stepless.

 
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Posted Sat Feb 15, 2014, 5:47pm
Subject: Re: Newbie: Grinder Help Plz :)
 

To communicate at greater length. The Baratza grinders of lower price are not what you want for espresso. The  P and the V are a higher price than you post. The Rocky is considered woefully outdated and out classed by the members of CG. Do not purchase it. If you do you will be mocked mercilessly (just kidding). Really though, it is not what most here would suggest. Most WOULD suggest a stepless grinder and that the Lelit is. If you want to use what you purchase for anything else but espresso banish the Lelit from your consideration. It really is for espresso only  but I would, from my experience, say it does that quite well.

Good luck.  Sky



Regards to the wife.
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ODandy
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Posted Sat Feb 15, 2014, 5:53pm
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Thank you everyone for your awesome advice! I will avoid the Rocky and see about a Preciso I think. This LeLit PL53 is very intriguing though. I read that the Baratza Virtuoso has Preciso burrs, is the Preciso a very large step up from the Virtuoso?

Unfortunately Baratza doesn't ship their refurbs to Canada otherwise I would have probably pulled the trigger on it already.

Thanks for all the help everyone, also my Wife sends her regards back Skylar lol.

Mike
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D4F
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Posted Sat Feb 15, 2014, 5:59pm
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Preciso had micro-adjustment/steps, Virtuoso does not.

 
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ODandy
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Posted Sat Feb 15, 2014, 6:04pm
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Those would be essential/worth the extra money?
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D4F
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic PID
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Posted Sat Feb 15, 2014, 6:12pm
Subject: Re: Newbie: Grinder Help Plz :)
 

Yes, you need very fine steps/micro steps, or stepless, to stay dialed in and not too coarse or too fine.  The very reason many "espresso able" grinders are not.  They can get fine enough to choke the machine, but the steps are too far between to stay dialed in.

 
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http://www.gaggiausersgroup.com/
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