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nkbsbl
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Posted Tue Jan 28, 2014, 2:18pm
Subject: Storing beans in a hopper not a good idea?
 

I have a Baratza Vario - I generally fill the hopper with "fresh" beans (purchased). That usually buys me almost a week before I have to refill it. My concern is that I wouldn't consider the hopper to be sealed tight - the lid more or less loosely fits on, and there's obviously the hole underneath it (through the burrs) where the grinds come out open to the air. From what I've seen in videos and nice coffee shops, their hoppers are usually full - so I'm assuming it's ok to do this. Was just wondering if people noticed that beans get stale quicker when sitting in a hopper for 3-5 days or longer.
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Posted Tue Jan 28, 2014, 2:47pm
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nkbsbl Said:

I have a Baratza Vario - I generally fill the hopper with "fresh" beans (purchased). That usually buys me almost a week before I have to refill it. My concern is that I wouldn't consider the hopper to be sealed tight - the lid more or less loosely fits on, and there's obviously the hole underneath it (through the burrs) where the grinds come out open to the air. From what I've seen in videos and nice coffee shops, their hoppers are usually full - so I'm assuming it's ok to do this. Was just wondering if people noticed that beans get stale quicker when sitting in a hopper for 3-5 days or longer.

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Most shops empty them out at the end of the day into a coffee bag or something to preserve the beans.  I usually don;t fill mine up to last longer than 3-5 days.  Usually by then the beans are about to go stale even only after been roasted a week or two ago.  If your gonna use the Vario hopper I'd only fill for a few days.  Preserve the rest of the coffee somewhere where they aren't exposed to air and UV.
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Posted Wed Jan 29, 2014, 2:18pm
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A week in the hopper isn't a big deal if fresh to start with.
I buy 5pounds at a time then break into about one pound lots and freeze until needed. I put about 5 to 7 days worth into the hopper when I fill it.

 
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Posted Wed Jan 29, 2014, 3:54pm
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I'm all over the place when it comes to beans in the hopper.

sometimes I will dump a half pound that I want to use continuously into one of the grinder hoppers so that it is always readily available as a quick choice/option.

Recently I have been keeping all of the hoppers empty and putting in and grinding only what I will use to brew, keeping the hoppers empty so that I have a larger choice of the roasted beans that I can grind and brew.

There is no "bean law" when it comes to what or how much you load into your hoppers.

What ever works for you (as long as they stay fresh and you can use up what you have in the hopper before they start to lose flavor) you should be fine.
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Posted Wed Jan 29, 2014, 6:12pm
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No hopper for me, air tight jar. Grind as needed.
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Posted Wed Jan 29, 2014, 6:17pm
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I weigh the whole beans, and put only that amount in the hopper.  I think my beans stay fresher in an airtight canister plus I can more easily use different beans day-to-day.
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Posted Wed Jan 29, 2014, 6:28pm
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I grind only what I going to drink at the time, the rest stay in an air tight container inside a cabinet. When I place an order I usually get 2 to 3 pounds which last about a month, the first pound goes into the container and rest into the freezer.

 
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Posted Thu Jan 30, 2014, 4:48am
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For those who grind as needed aka single-dosing, I assume you guys store your beans in a airtight container. Let's say you pull 2-3 shots per day and you open and close that container for the same number of times. Each time you open it, fresh oxygen is gonna be introduced into your beans. Has anyone think about this or am I overreacting?
Don't get me wrong but I use to do this myself when I first started out. Nowadays I just pour the whole bag(250gm) into my hopper and grind into a plastic cup. I don't clean out the chute and just leave it clogged to form a seal. I also cover my hopper with a cloth.
I dunno if this is the best way but I'm interested to learn other methods.
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Posted Thu Jan 30, 2014, 6:29am
Subject: Re: Storing beans in a hopper not a good idea?
 

Donovan Said:

For those who grind as needed aka single-dosing, I assume you guys store your beans in a airtight container. Let's say you pull 2-3 shots per day and you open and close that container for the same number of times. Each time you open it, fresh oxygen is gonna be introduced into your beans. Has anyone think about this or am I overreacting?
Don't get me wrong but I use to do this myself when I first started out. Nowadays I just pour the whole bag(250gm) into my hopper and grind into a plastic cup. I don't clean out the chute and just leave it clogged to form a seal. I also cover my hopper with a cloth.
I dunno if this is the best way but I'm interested to learn other methods.

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I use a zip lock bag and ball caning jars. So their frozen in batches. And when I'm using a jar, I weigh out the beans, then squeeze the air out of the zip bag tightly and zip it and back in the jar it goes. Been doing that for about two years and works great and prolongs the life. As its just wife and I making two drinks in the morning and when I would leave batches of beans in the hopper I noticed they would go stale quicker and have to adjust grind settings more. Plus the Baratza grinders work so well for single dosing as they don't have the retention or large grind paths of commercial grinders. Weighed 16.3g today, and got 16.3g and 16.2g.
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Posted Thu Jan 30, 2014, 7:06am
Subject: Re: Storing beans in a hopper not a good idea?
 

Donovan Said:

For those who grind as needed aka single-dosing, I assume you guys store your beans in a airtight container. Let's say you pull 2-3 shots per day and you open and close that container for the same number of times. Each time you open it, fresh oxygen is gonna be introduced into your beans. Has anyone think about this or am I overreacting?
Don't get me wrong but I use to do this myself when I first started out. Nowadays I just pour the whole bag(250gm) into my hopper and grind into a plastic cup. I don't clean out the chute and just leave it clogged to form a seal. I also cover my hopper with a cloth.
I dunno if this is the best way but I'm interested to learn other methods.

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I do single-dose... The thing is I keep beans in a jar in a cupboard and only as much beans as I need for 2 to 3 days. The rest of my beans is split into ziplocks in similar doses so when I run out of beans in a jar I dump whole contents of ziplock in and close it tightly to thaw without inducing much moisture.

A note: if you leave it all in a grinder this clog could pull quite a bit of moisture but I'm not sure it's an effective seal. The cloth you put over the hopper would only cut the amount of light the beans are exposed too, won't help with moisture...

Just my $0.02

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