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thebeardedbarista
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Posted Tue Nov 26, 2013, 12:38pm
Subject: Re: How to make Mazzer Mini doser-less?
 

Dan, has this funnel given you any problems with static or clumping? The only benefit I can think of to having a doser in a home setting is helping break up clumps or getting the grounds a little fluffier.
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Posted Tue Nov 26, 2013, 5:32pm
Subject: Re: How to make Mazzer Mini doser-less?
 

thebeardedbarista Said:

Dan, has this funnel given you any problems with static or clumping? The only benefit I can think of to having a doser in a home setting is helping break up clumps or getting the grounds a little fluffier.

Posted November 26, 2013 link

5 year old thread so I might as well pile on too :-0

I converted my SJ to doserless a couple of months ago and I can say it was one of the best customizations I have done to date.  

I do not notice any more clumping than I did with the can/arm doser.  I did put in a antistatic screen from a Major when I did the switch over which stopped grounds drop out after grinding and makes the dose rather consistent once dialed in for the beans in the hopper.

For a while I wondered if I would keep the SJ as I was using my Vario-W more often because the can doser on the Mazzer was just so messy (tossed grounds everywhere).  

Three months after converting the SJ to timed doserless I no longer have the Vario-W which says volumes.  The SJ is run by an Auber timer (on the left in the pic below).  This pic was taken a few weeks ago before I packed up the Vario-W.  My Forte BG arrived today.  The Mazzer is now my ONLY espresso grinder and both of the Baratza grinders are dedicated pour-over/drip/press grinders

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Posted Wed Nov 27, 2013, 6:38am
Subject: Re: How to make Mazzer Mini doser-less?
 

Just as a counter point, I have a SJ that was converted to doserless with factory parts. It is no where near as nice to use as it was before the conversion, it makes a mess everywhere and the ability to grind while doing something else is gone.

Doser/less is a personal choice, it is not better or worse. Some people love the color blue, others do not, it is a personal choice. Converting the grinder is only a positive thing if you are inclined to go that way, it is not the next step in geekdom, it is a personal choice.

Some may feel that it is an improvement. that is wonderful and may they live long and have a great life. For me, I find the extra clumping in the basket, the grinds all over the place and the fact that it is mandatory that I stand at it while it is grinding is a PITA.

YMMV!!!!! :D

 
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Posted Wed Nov 27, 2013, 8:34am
Subject: Re: How to make Mazzer Mini doser-less?
 

calblacksmith Said:

Just as a counter point, I have a SJ that was converted to doserless with factory parts. It is no where near as nice to use as it was before the conversion, it makes a mess everywhere and the ability to grind while doing something else is gone.

Doser/less is a personal choice, it is not better or worse. Some people love the color blue, others do not, it is a personal choice. Converting the grinder is only a positive thing if you are inclined to go that way, it is not the next step in geekdom, it is a personal choice.

Some may feel that it is an improvement. that is wonderful and may they live long and have a great life. For me, I find the extra clumping in the basket, the grinds all over the place and the fact that it is mandatory that I stand at it while it is grinding is a PITA.

YMMV!!!!! :D

Posted November 27, 2013 link

Absolutely.  What is someone's perfection can easily be another person's nightmare.

What works for me may not work for everyone (may not even work for anyone).  I can only provide my personal experience and as with anything that is prefaced with the word "personal" you should always consider that you may not feel the same way.

I saved my doser can and someday in the future may put it back on since all of the mods I did were "add ons" with no changes made to the actual grinder itself (remove something and replace with something else so everything is reversible in a few minutes time).

As with any customizations YMMV tops "personal opinions" :)

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Posted Sun Jan 5, 2014, 11:02pm
Subject: Re: How to make Mazzer Mini doser-less?
 

moosepucky Said:

5 year old thread so I might as well pile on too :-0

I converted my SJ to doserless a couple of months ago and I can say it was one of the best customizations I have done to date.  

I do not notice any more clumping than I did with the can/arm doser.  I did put in a antistatic screen from a Major when I did the switch over which stopped grounds drop out after grinding and makes the dose rather consistent once dialed in for the beans in the hopper.

For a while I wondered if I would keep the SJ as I was using my Vario-W more often because the can doser on the Mazzer was just so messy (tossed grounds everywhere).  

Three months after converting the SJ to timed doserless I no longer have the Vario-W which says volumes.  The SJ is run by an Auber timer (on the left in the pic below).  This pic was taken a few weeks ago before I packed up the Vario-W.  My Forte BG arrived today.  The Mazzer is now my ONLY espresso grinder and both of the Baratza grinders are dedicated pour-over/drip/press grinders

Posted November 26, 2013 link

Moosepucky,

Looks really nice.  What's the process for adding the Auber timer?  I have a Mini Doser that I'd eventually like to convert to doserless with a timer.  Did you buy the doserless parts from espressoparts?

Thanks,

Mick
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Posted Mon Jan 6, 2014, 7:05am
Subject: Re: How to make Mazzer Mini doser-less?
 

carabelli Said:

Moosepucky,

Looks really nice.  What's the process for adding the Auber timer?  I have a Mini Doser that I'd eventually like to convert to doserless with a timer.  Did you buy the doserless parts from espressoparts?

Thanks,

Mick

Posted January 5, 2014 link

The Auber is just a plug in between the grinder and the AC outlet.

The timer turns on power to an outlet which the grinder plugs into.

They make 2 types. One for the older simple grinders (with an on off switch) and one for the newer style with the on/off/start switch.

My SJ is rather old and has no safety devices to worry about and it was an on/off switch type which worked out as an easy install (just plug everything together).

You can find info about both types of timers on the Auber site:

Standard grinder timer info

Automatic grinder timer info

If you are handy and don't mind cutting out a project box for everything you can make your own using any brand of timer and SSRs.  When I priced everything it was not that much to get one assembled from Auber. The parts to do it with a Delta timer and Delta SSR was more than an assembled Auber box.

I wanted to have them make mine with the lighted buttons but they were out of stock and the wait would have been 2-3 weeks so I went ahead and got the standard one (without the lighted buttons).

I bought the Mazzer parts from a number of places as some venders had lower pricing on some of the parts.  Just check pricing as it has been a while since I got everything and pricing may have changed.
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Posted Mon Jan 6, 2014, 9:06am
Subject: Re: How to make Mazzer Mini doser-less?
 

Another direction that is similar is a digital dark room timer, plug it into the wall, plug the grinder into it, the timer controls the grinder.

I ran dual SJs that way for quite a while, one was a timer model the other was a converted automatic model all I had to do was either start the timer on the SJ then hit the digital timer or hold the auto switch to start on the grinder and start the timer.

If you like DIY projects, there is nothing wrong at all with assembling your own parts. Two different paths to the same end. :D

 
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Posted Tue Jan 7, 2014, 12:34pm
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calblacksmith Said:

Another direction that is similar is a digital dark room timer, plug it into the wall, plug the grinder into it, the timer controls the grinder.

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