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the_rkp
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Posted Thu Nov 21, 2013, 2:28am
Subject: Tre Spade - IL MACININO
 

Hi all,

I read some information on this forum about the grinder in object (Il Macinino - Tre Spade) and I understood it is not bad so I bought it :)
Yesterday it arrived at my home, and this morning I was so excited using it for the first time, but I had a really bad surprise. The grinds are too coarse. I tried almost all different settings, even the two extreme, but nothing, the coffee is really coarse, I guess this way is useless even if I use it for the moka just imagine for a decent expresso.

Does someone have some feedback on this issue? I'm really sad :( :(

Thanks in advance
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Posted Thu Nov 21, 2013, 9:56am
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Mod note, dup THREAD deleted.

 
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Posted Thu Nov 21, 2013, 9:59am
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Yes, really sorry about this. Maybe I wrongly click two time :(
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Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Thu Nov 21, 2013, 10:07am
Subject: Re: Tre Spade - IL MACININO
 

I am sorry you are sad.
That grinder was never designed for espresso, it is only a general use grinder and will never grind properly for espresso. You need a grinder that was designed for ONLY espresso or at least MAINLY for espresso. Sorry.

If you can, return it and buy a espresso grinder if that is your goal. Most espresso grinders though do not work well with regular grinding for coffee so if you want to do both, keep it and then buy another grinder for espresso.

The Mahlkoenig Vario is one of the few grinders to be able to do both in a home grinder budget. This is the name in the EU, in the U.S. it is the Baratza   Vario.

http://www.mahlkoenig.de/en_products/VARIO-home.html

 
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Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Thu Nov 21, 2013, 10:08am
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the_rkp Said:

Yes, really sorry about this. Maybe I wrongly click two time :(

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That is OK, that is my job to take care of things like that :D

 
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Posted Thu Nov 21, 2013, 10:29am
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Thank you for the answer.
Maybe I misunderstand some reviews I read in the last months, I thought it is quite good for espresso as well (I don't need nothing else, actually, other than expresso is not coffee :-P ).
However, this morning I wrote to the "Tre Spade" and they answered me very quickly. They sent me some instructions to reduce the distance between the grinding mechanism... this evening I will try, and let you know :) cross the fingers
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Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Thu Nov 21, 2013, 10:37am
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I wish you luck.

 
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Posted Thu Nov 21, 2013, 3:54pm
Subject: Re: Tre Spade - IL MACININO
 

I can confirm that the grinder is indeed designed for espresso, presumably it is the same one I saw in the link below "Tre Spade Il Maccino"

Click Here (www.amazon.com)

They're also rebadged by La Pavoni to be LP PGC (Chrome Model) or LP PGB (Brass Model). With the instruction from Tre Spade, I am sure you can get it to work for espresso. The worm gear is very adjustable for espresso fineness. The only grip when I used them was that they're pretty loud. But overall a very good grinder.
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Posted Fri Nov 22, 2013, 2:08am
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Thank you guy for all the answers. I can confirm that with the right instruction, the grinder work very good. Now it's all about find the right settings, now I'm happy again :-P
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Posted Fri Nov 22, 2013, 3:54am
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calblacksmith Said:

I am sorry you are sad.
That grinder was never designed for espresso, it is only a general use grinder and will never grind properly for espresso. You need a grinder that was designed for ONLY espresso or at least MAINLY for espresso. Sorry.

If you can, return it and buy a espresso grinder if that is your goal. Most espresso grinders though do not work well with regular grinding for coffee so if you want to do both, keep it and then buy another grinder for espresso.

The Mahlkoenig Vario is one of the few grinders to be able to do both in a home grinder budget. This is the name in the EU, in the U.S. it is the Baratza   Vario.

http://www.mahlkoenig.de/en_products/VARIO-home.html

Posted November 21, 2013 link

This information isn't just a little bit wrong, it's totally wrong ... and from a mod, yet! The trespade grinders are designed totally as espresso grinders, the "family" includes grinders by Imat, Nemox, Iberital, Isomac, Ascaso, laPavoni, Rancilio (the Jacky) and Lelit, all built around the same burrs, carriers and motor. See the HB results for the Nemox Lux, probably the crudest design of the group, here Click Here (www.home-barista.com) .

The trespade design isn't really that good at general purpose, i.e. plunger and filter grinding.

Alan
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