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Posted Mon Nov 4, 2013, 12:43pm
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yeah, back to basics is always a good idea when little tweaks don't seem to fix the problem.

Will VSTs help?  Well, I've been uising LM Strada baskets for several years now, and can't remember the last time I used a stock basket.  I don't get many sprites, and when I do it's sporadic.  I think it has to do with grind slightly off or unevenness in distribution.  If I get real channeling, it's only after changing beans and then over-coarsening my grind to compensate for the choke I just had. I'm not that patient to do microadjustments when the grind is way off for a new jar or bag...and to be honest, most of the time, I have a pretty darn good idea how far to adjust my grinder to get it ballpark for a decent shot, so it usually only takes me two or three shots to get it dialed in when I change beans.  

Long answer, I know...or maybe I should say, long non-answer.  In short, I would suggest they are helpful (though I don't remember how helpful).  I know you're on a student budget, but if you can manage to pick one up, it's probably worthwhile.

 
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Posted Tue Nov 5, 2013, 8:10am
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Whitcoatsyndrom Said:

I took a look at my Vario burrs and snapped a few pics of what might be abnormalities/chips in the burrs. I'm not too familiar with what is and is not significant enough to cause a problem so I'm hoping you all can shed some light.  I do have an extra set of new burrs, but I've only put about 15lbs through the machine so I was going to hold off installation unless someone here suggests I try it.  Thanks a lot everyone.

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Did you buy the grinder new?

those chips are typical of someone using a screwdriver that is TOO wide to fit inside the screw hole when removing the burr attachment screws.

From the looks of the buggered up screw slots those burrs have been off at least once and someone used an inappropriate tool that chipped the ceramic burr while taking off or putting back on the burr screws.

the only "fix" is to replace the burrs with new ones (and use new screws since those have buggered slots).  

Use a screwdriver that is narrow enough to fit in the hole and this won't happen again.

I would not have the answer as to whether this effects the grind or not but the actual grinding on the ceramic burrs takes place at the outside edge where those chips are located so it is a possibility.

If you want the definitive answer you need to go to Baratza and tell them you have a couple of buggered up burrs.  They will recognize what happened and be able to advise you on whether you need new burrs or not.

The Vario with ceramic burrs is a very nice espresso grinder.
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Posted Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:25am
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moosepucky Said:

Did you buy the grinder new?

those chips are typical of someone using a screwdriver that is TOO wide to fit inside the screw hole when removing the burr attachment screws.

From the looks of the buggered up screw slots those burrs have been off at least once and someone used an inappropriate tool that chipped the ceramic burr while taking off or putting back on the burr screws.

the only "fix" is to replace the burrs with new ones (and use new screws since those have buggered slots).  

Use a screwdriver that is narrow enough to fit in the hole and this won't happen again.

I would not have the answer as to whether this effects the grind or not but the actual grinding on the ceramic burrs takes place at the outside edge where those chips are located so it is a possibility.

If you want the definitive answer you need to go to Baratza and tell them you have a couple of buggered up burrs.  They will recognize what happened and be able to advise you on whether you need new burrs or not.

The Vario with ceramic burrs is a very nice espresso grinder.

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Thanks for the reply!  The grinder was indeed refurb.  I figured the damage was from someone else trying to replace them with the wrong tool...sort of ridiculous that someone spends a few hundred dollars on something and then doesn't take the time to find the right screwdriver.  Baratza sent me a new set of burrs despite not being able to really tell me if the chips are the cause of my problems; gotta love that customer service.
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Posted Tue Nov 5, 2013, 11:09am
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Whitcoatsyndrom Said:

Thanks for the reply!  The grinder was indeed refurb.  I figured the damage was from someone else trying to replace them with the wrong tool...sort of ridiculous that someone spends a few hundred dollars on something and then doesn't take the time to find the right screwdriver.  Baratza sent me a new set of burrs despite not being able to really tell me if the chips are the cause of my problems; gotta love that customer service.

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They should have caught that when they did the inspection before offering it for sale again.  

A good "investment" in tools is a  Brownells gunsmith screwdriver set.

Click Here (www.brownells.com)

Little pricey for non gun work but invaluable when you need a fine match between a screw and tool.

I just replaced the ceramic burrs in my Vario-W this morning with a set of steel burrs and used this set.  I've had my set for decades and can't count the number of times it has come in handy.

I believe that they make a smaller set if you dig around on their site.

Use a metal pick to clean the coffee out of the screw slot so that you can get a good match between the blade and the screw slot.

Click Here (www.matcotools.com)

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