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Bullysonzx10r
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Posted Mon Nov 4, 2013, 6:23pm
Subject: Should I upgrade? Gaggia MDF to a high end Grinder
 

Hey all,

I've been a lurker for a while, but this is my first post.

A few weeks ago I purchased a La Spaz Mini Vivaldi II, and I absolutely love it. I've been using a Gaggia MDF as my grinder, and I'm getting good results, fairly consistent shots, great Crema, and a great taste.

However, I wonder if I'm missing out... So, I've got a few questions:

- Is it worth upgrading? (I'm Willing to spend around 750-1000 on  a grinder)
- Will I notice any difference with an upgrade?
- What should I upgrade to?

Thanks in advance for your help!!
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jprudolph
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Espresso: Rocket R58 / Carimali Uno
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Posted Mon Nov 4, 2013, 8:22pm
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I had 2 Gaggia MDFs. One was an original 1993 steel MDF at home for use with my Carimali Uno plumbed in unit and the other was a 2006 MDF for use at my condo with my Gaggia Classic. Recently I purchased a Mazzer Mini E for use with the Carimali. The difference was stunning! Wow! The only negative is that the stepless adjustment collar on the Mazzer is VERY stiff thus making it difficult to make very small adjustments as the adjustment inevitably jerks past the desired stop point and the graduation marks are not numbered well. The machine also sprays quite a bit of coffee on the counter with certain roasts. For the condo I replaced my 2006 MDF with a Macap M4D. The M4D is easier to use and not as messy as the Mazzer and it turned my Cheapo Gaggia Classic into a miracle machine that outperforms the old Carimali. This led me to purchasing an R58 for the condo and now I'm off the charts happy and trying to figure out if I should replace the now hated Carimali.

Yes. Buy a whazoo grinder.
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Posted Tue Nov 5, 2013, 7:36am
Subject: Re: Should I upgrade? Gaggia MDF to a high end Grinder
 

Yes, however, i only have experience with the baratza vario. ha
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Posted Tue Nov 5, 2013, 7:57am
Subject: Re: Should I upgrade? Gaggia MDF to a high end Grinder
 

jprudolph Said:

I had 2 Gaggia MDFs. One was an original 1993 steel MDF at home for use with my Carimali Uno plumbed in unit and the other was a 2006 MDF for use at my condo with my Gaggia Classic. Recently I purchased a Mazzer Mini E for use with the Carimali. The difference was stunning! Wow! The only negative is that the stepless adjustment collar on the Mazzer is VERY stiff thus making it difficult to make very small adjustments as the adjustment inevitably jerks past the desired stop point and the graduation marks are not numbered well. The machine also sprays quite a bit of coffee on the counter with certain roasts. For the condo I replaced my 2006 MDF with a Macap M4D. The M4D is easier to use and not as messy as the Mazzer and it turned my Cheapo Gaggia Classic into a miracle machine that outperforms the old Carimali. This led me to purchasing an R58 for the condo and now I'm off the charts happy and trying to figure out if I should replace the now hated Carimali.

Yes. Buy a whazoo grinder.

Posted November 4, 2013 link

I'm not surprised about your grinder upgrade experiences.

Keeping in mind that the Gaggia MDF is (without having been modified) a stepped grinder with its steps being too wide for dialing in correctly, and that you'll always fare better with a stepless model, an upgrade to a high end grinder will always bring a noticable difference in espresso quality.

 
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jprudolph
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Espresso: Rocket R58 / Carimali Uno
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Posted Tue Nov 5, 2013, 8:21am
Subject: Re: Should I upgrade? Gaggia MDF to a high end Grinder
 

NobbyR,

Yes, the MDFs are step less, I have played with them from time to time with the stops removed and there were some instances that the "midpoint" was the sweetspot. If Gaggia would release a micro metric adjustable version of the MDF is would be nice.
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