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dgkula
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Posted Wed Oct 30, 2013, 6:19pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio rocky vs. baratza preciso for espresso newbie
 

Frost Said:

The Rocky is 'has been' around here. I think the biggest problem ( besides clumping) is the burr alignment issues when play develops in the adjustment thread. If the burrs are not perfectly co-planar and solid adjusted, grind quality quickly drops off a cliff.

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So I am obviously new here but bought my Rocky + Silvia combo in the second half of 2000. I have done the Teflon tape mod and put electrical tape on the doser vanes to sweep cleaner and that is it. I get great pours from this combo (90% straight shots unless I am making a milk drink for my wife on a weekend) and am really surprised at the criticism this rock solid grinder receives on this board. There are times when I would like to adjust the grind as the beans age but instead can adjust dose to get similar results.

This grinder is rock solid and I have not had a single issue in 13 years.

I do have a used Mazzer SJ arriving tomorrow. I got a screaming deal and am curious to see if I can taste a difference. If not I can sell it for what I paid and stick with Rocky. Have a look at the Titan Grinder Project over at HB and the Rocky results might surprise you.

Best,
David
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LauraH
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Espresso: Rancilio Silvia
Grinder: Rancilio Rocky
Posted Wed Oct 30, 2013, 9:59pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio rocky vs. baratza preciso for espresso newbie
 

I'm glad to see a couple of folks sticking up for the Rocky. It was the best choice for me since there was not going to be an ability for me to get warranty work done and needed a machine that had a GOOD track record. It may take a few extra moments to create my morning brew but the Sylvia/Rocky combo have been awesome!  Lovely espresso, proud to share it and I enjoy the process.  There was a learning curve but learning new things is a good thing.
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Posted Thu Oct 31, 2013, 8:19am
Subject: Re: Rancilio rocky vs. baratza preciso for espresso newbie
 

I used to have a Rocky. I got good results by adjusting dose to compensate for the inability to adjust the grind precisely. Then I bought my first Macap M4. Not only was it a whole new world in a adjusting the grind exactly where I want it, but the results in the cup were waaaaaay better. After that, I couldn't wait to get rid of the Rocky, so as soon as I could I got a second M4.  Now I want to get my first Titan, as I'm sure I'll be stepping into another world with that.  But hey...that's my experience. If other people want to keep their Rocky and stay where they're at, that's their choice.  Given what I've been through, I just can't recommend a Rocky.

 
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Posted Thu Oct 31, 2013, 4:33pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio rocky vs. baratza preciso for espresso newbie
 

dgkula Said:

So I am obviously new here but bought my Rocky + Silvia combo in the second half of 2000. I have done the Teflon tape mod and put electrical tape on the doser vanes to sweep cleaner and that is it. I get great pours from this combo (90% straight shots unless I am making a milk drink for my wife on a weekend) and am really surprised at the criticism this rock solid grinder receives on this board.

Posted October 30, 2013 link

It's difficult to assess what one has not experienced.

I was happy with my Rocky prior to getting my Super Jolly.  However, switching to the SJ was one of the most significant improvements in the cup that I've made.
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dgkula
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Posted Thu Oct 31, 2013, 5:24pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio rocky vs. baratza preciso for espresso newbie
 

Ok so I fired my used SJ this morning and agree that adjustability and grind are superior to the Rocky but should we really be surprised?

Rocky retails for $350 or so, the SJ retails for $695 or so. I made very good espresso with the Rocky; given my few trials with the SJ, I think I may be able to make even better espresso with the SJ (both using the Silvia, which could also be upgraded as well at enormous expense). My used Rocky is listed at $150 on ebay - for the quality of espresso that it can produce, combined with build quality and consistency that is a good price.

So here's the question - if I can do better than 90% of the coffehouses in my area with Silvia and Rocky, is it worth spending more for the upgrade to the SJ? Of course I want a VBM DD which is $2300 ... this is insanity. Each of us must decide how deep our pockets are an what we can afford to spend in pursuit of the godshot. I spent 13 years with Silvia and Rocky and drank very good shots. There is always better, but at what price. At some point we hit the law of diminishing returns; that point is likely different for each pocketbook.

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