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OilyEspresso
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Posted Wed Oct 23, 2013, 7:34pm
Subject: Purchased! Two used Super Jolly Grinders!
 

So I decided to go with a commericial grade grinder, after a lot of research I found that Super Jollys in my area are a dime a dozen due to the coffee cart craze.

After waiting for a bit, I found three used machines for sale at 180 bucks a peice.

I went and visited the machines, one of them was extremely new showing almost no wear, and grinds like a dream. I bought that one instantly. It's a 120V luigi super jolly with a timer and a doser.

The second machine sounded like it would get power but didn't run, so I didn't buy that one. The owner claimed that it was a safety system issue, but you could hear a sound like it had power but wasn't working.

The third machine was the same as the second, but functioned nicely, putting out a nice grind. It was an older model luigi super jolly 110V with an on/off system and doser. The screw in adjustment locking pin on the side was no where to be found on this machine.

I now have these, they have been proven to work and ground at a good rate.

Ive been watching a few videos on grinder care, I know how to take it apart and put it back together again thanks to the video. I am mechanically inclined and can work on these machines.

I am planning on preforming a full tear down on the machines, checking the burrs, cleaning the machine up, replacing the locking pin on the one machine, possibly installing a doserless system.

But I'd like your opinions as to what I should do as start-up maintenance, and what I should continue to do to keep these machines in top condition. What are some of the pitfalls and problems you have encountered in using them and how do I avoid these situation in my own journey?

Thanks everyone!
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Posted Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:56pm
Subject: Re: Purchased! Two used Super Jolly Grinders!
 

Congrats, thats a nice price. What do you need two for?

As far as im understanding Mazzer, the main aspects are burrs and cleaning. I am however new to mazzer myself. If the motor sounds fine and it grinds, itll probably need a good cleaning and perhaps new burrs. If you are to use them commercially, new burrs might be a good idea. If not, you can test them by letting a finger nail run over them, if they scratch the nail lightly, the burrs are sharp. No blood and gore required.
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Posted Thu Oct 24, 2013, 7:10am
Subject: Re: Purchased! Two used Super Jolly Grinders!
 

"My Super Jolly Hospital LOL!"
That is a thread I started a while ago.
There isn't much to do on them, they are stout. I would guess that the one that did not run was likely a starter capp.

Change the burrs and a good cleaning and perhaps a paint job.

I like the doser and while I did convert one to doserless for someone who was going to buy it then backed out, I am going to change it back. There is just too much mess with doserless and you loose the ability to grind while pulling a shot.

I ran two SJs for a while, on a timer. One for regular and one for Decaf. Since then I have moved on and only use one coffee on the bar now

You might want to check out my CBSJ mod for the doser, it makes it sweep VERY clean and is an easy mod to do. "CBSJ mod (CalBlacksmith SJ doser mod)"

 
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moosepucky
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Posted Fri Oct 25, 2013, 8:41am
Subject: Re: Purchased! Two used Super Jolly Grinders!
 

OilyEspresso Said:

But I'd like your opinions as to what I should do as start-up maintenance, and what I should continue to do to keep these machines in top condition. What are some of the pitfalls and problems you have encountered in using them and how do I avoid these situation in my own journey?

Thanks everyone!

Posted October 23, 2013 link

Basic dis assembly and cleaning out of the old stale/rancid coffee will be a big improvement.  Remove the burrs, clean them, clean the cute.

Remove the dosser - 2 screws on the top and 2 on the bottom (inside) and it comes off.  Clean it out well.  You "may not" need to take it apart to clean it if it functions properly.  Remove the base and brush out any accumulated grounds that fell to the bottom.

There is a nice mod that EP sells for the doser to keep the grounds from "spewing" around.  this is nice in a home environment where you want to keep things neat, clean, and tidy.

I'm in the process of converting my SJ from a can doser to a timed funnel doser.  All parts won't be here until mid week next week :(
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Posted Tue Oct 29, 2013, 11:31am
Subject: Re: Purchased! Two used Super Jolly Grinders!
 

OilyEspresso Said:

What are some of the pitfalls and problems you have encountered in using them and how do I avoid these situation in my own journey?

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These things are tanks.  Not much to do other than cleaning and replacing the burrs as needed.
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Posted Tue Oct 29, 2013, 12:23pm
Subject: Re: Purchased! Two used Super Jolly Grinders!
 

Where are ya'll finding these used commercial grinders? At an auction house? I have no idea where to even start looking other than a used restaurant equipment place, and that's if they'll let me in not being a business owner (open to the public?).
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moosepucky
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Posted Tue Oct 29, 2013, 1:12pm
Subject: Re: Purchased! Two used Super Jolly Grinders!
 

keithd Said:

Where are ya'll finding these used commercial grinders? At an auction house? I have no idea where to even start looking other than a used restaurant equipment place, and that's if they'll let me in not being a business owner (open to the public?).

Posted October 29, 2013 link

They are where you find them :)

Craigslist.  Ebay.  Restaurant supply houses (yes they are open to the public and many resell used equipment - call around).
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OilyEspresso
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Posted Fri Nov 1, 2013, 1:46am
Subject: Re: Purchased! Two used Super Jolly Grinders!
 

Here's what I've been doing:

I search craigslist in my area every day and get a feel for prices in my area. I compare them against prices on ebay and for what you can get them for brand-new.

You should be able to get in on some "going out of business" sales, that's basically what this was.

They wanted a lot for the espresso machine, but they were selling the grinders dirt cheap. So I went, tried them out, made sure they functioned and had been maintained which they had.

The trick is to watch, wait, learn the market on the specific item you want on both E-bay and craigslist and then buy when you find one that's abnormally low. That doesn't happen that often on ebay much these days IMHO, but craigslist is awesome.

I live in a rural area so there are less deals, but when they come up there's also less chance of someone jumping on it before you do.
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