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shnxx
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Posted Sun Sep 22, 2013, 1:44am
Subject: Which Mazzer grinder for home use?
 

Hello

I have a Bezzera 003 grinder as seen here.
http://dibartoli.com.au/bezzera-bb003-doser-grinder/
http://coffeegeek.com/forums/members/buysell/391139


But since I'm seriously considering buying a Marzocco machine (GS/3) next, I want to upgrade my grinder to a Mazzer grinder.
One thing I don't like about my 003 is that it has a step adjustment, which I am not a big fan of and it has a doser, which wastes a lot of beans for me and is entirely unnecessary for home use.

Looking at this link, it seems like the only differences are throughput and conical vs. flat burrs.
http://www.lamarzoccousa.com/portfolio/comparegrinders/

Which one is good for home use?
Which is good enough to pair with a GS3?
Is it a good idea to buy from eBay or craigslist? (i noticed there are a lot of good deals on used mazzer grinders)
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Posted Sun Sep 22, 2013, 3:20am
Subject: Re: Which Mazzer grinder for home use?
 

There is no simple answer to your question that won't be disagreed with by a good proportion of members of this forum.  The discussions have gone on for years about "which is best".  

One thing that probably wouldn't be contested is that all Mazzers have the same high level of construction quality, so you can probably eliminate that as an issue.

Beyond that, it's personal choice, and the best answer is to search previous discussions and reviews and come to your own conclusions as to what fits your criteria for performance, size and price.

Buying second hand is fairly secure with these grinders provided they haven't been badly abused. You may need new grinder burrs, but they are readily available and considered normal service replacement parts anyway.
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Posted Sun Sep 22, 2013, 1:17pm
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Found this helpful article on the main website (but through a google search to be fair). It answered all of my questions and pointed me away from a mazzer. It might answer your questions as well.

Click Here (coffeegeek.com)
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Posted Sun Sep 22, 2013, 3:43pm
Subject: Re: Which Mazzer grinder for home use?
 

I don't see how that article points away from Mazzer? The OP is looking for a grinder that is a step or two above that grinder.
Doser/less is a personal thing. One is not better than the other. A properly operating Doser is an advantage in the home as it allows you to grind for your next shot while using your PF and basket to pull a shot. They also tend to be cleaner on the counter, have less static and clumps in the grind. Look up the CBSJ mod to see you a little work makes the Doser much more useful.

Standard advice follows, watch Craig's list, local want add papers and haunt used equipment dealers for the best price,  I could point you to a few local to me  and in long beach.


As I said, one way is not better than the other, it is a pure personal choice.

 
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Posted Tue Sep 24, 2013, 10:18am
Subject: Re: Which Mazzer grinder for home use?
 

shnxx Said:

Which one is good for home use?

Posted September 22, 2013 link

Any of them would be.  It comes down to personal preference.

shnxx Said:

Which is good enough to pair with a GS3?

Posted September 22, 2013 link

Again, preference plays a large role here.  Super Jolly or better is what I'd say as a rule of thumb.  Beyond that, it's up to you to read up, see if you can experience any first hand and then decide based on your specific needs/wants.  Home Barista's titan grinder review covers some of the larger Mazzers, IIRC.
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Posted Tue Sep 24, 2013, 10:25am
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Definitely a superjolly and upwards. Buy a Mazzer mini and you could get upgraditis quicker than you think.
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Posted Fri Sep 27, 2013, 9:52am
Subject: Re: Which Mazzer grinder for home use?
 

After doing some reading and talking with a roastmaster, I'm left with more confusion with more choices than I know what to do with.

It seems that my best options are:
Mahlkoenig Vario K30 (~$1450)
Used Mazzer (most likely a Major ~$1100)
Compak K10 Fresh (~$2000)
Compak K10 Pro Barista (~$1500)
Wega 6.8? (~$1500)
Anfim Super Caimano (haven't looked much into this one)
They all seem to have pros and cons.

The K30 is convenient but it's a flat burr.
Mazzers are expensive.
K10s are conical burrs but retain too much grounds and seems like incredible pain in the ass for home use with single dosing.

I realize this is a long list but the issue here is that I don't ever want to have to change grinder again for a long time.

What is a guy to do?
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Posted Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:37am
Subject: Re: Which Mazzer grinder for home use?
 

I understand your frustration.

Did warn you there was not a simple answer to your question ;o(  if there were, everyone on here would have bought it ;o)  

Fact is there doesn't seem to be any single model of grinder on this planet that ticks all the boxes for everyone, so you may have to discard some of the "cons" you've read about which are of least concern to you and work on the "pros" that fit your own personal requirements.  I know it sounds like having to make a "least worst" decision, but grinders of this calibre were never designed with home use in mind, so although they are high quality commercial grade products they will have compromises of some sort if you only want to use them for single dosing.  

Some domestic grinders have come onto the market over the past few years that claim to fit the bill if you want to go in the direction of those sorts of products. I wouldn't, but that's a purely personal choice on my part.  

Currently have a Mazzer Mini-e.  Not in any hurry at all to upgrade, but if I were the Mahlkönig K30 would be high on the list.
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Posted Sat Sep 28, 2013, 2:28am
Subject: Re: Which Mazzer grinder for home use?
 

dennisthemenace Said:

Definitely a superjolly and upwards. Buy a Mazzer mini and you could get upgraditis quicker than you think.

Posted September 24, 2013 link

Just wondering how quickly?  I've had my Mini since June 2003 and I've been offered other grinders too. It's still in daily service.


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Posted Sat Sep 28, 2013, 11:05am
Subject: Re: Which Mazzer grinder for home use?
 

Quicker than the 10 years you've had yours.

Ian Said:

Just wondering how quickly?  I've had my Mini since June 2003 and I've been offered other grinders too. It's still in daily service.


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