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CMIN
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Location: South FL
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Espresso: Crossland CC1
Grinder: Baratza Preciso
Posted Thu Aug 29, 2013, 12:16pm
Subject: Re: Can't choke my
 

pmaru77 Said:

Baratza service is spot on.  They are truely techies as opposed to sales geeks.  They are swapping out my Preciso....one is already on its way.

Posted August 29, 2013 link

Did they say what they think may be wrong? So weird as the things listed above are really the only things that can cause that, but yours checked out fine... totally odd lol. Very important with the Preciso, make any adjustments (macro or micro) with the motor running, even if empty (I single dose). I found the grinder to not work as well if you make adjustments when no running (and if you have beans in the hopper you'll want to run anyway to avoid jamming like any other grinder). Like even if I move the micro a smidge, I have the power on, for whatever reason when I used to do that w/o it running my results weren't consistent.
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pmaru77
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Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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Location: San Diego
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Grinder: Maestro Plus
Vac Pot: Yama
Drip: KRUPS 4 cup (Melitta #2)
Roaster: Behmor Roaster
Posted Thu Aug 29, 2013, 8:31pm
Subject: Re: Can't choke my
 

CMIN Said:

Did they say what they think may be wrong? So weird as the things listed above are really the only things that can cause that, but yours checked out fine... totally odd lol. Very important with the Preciso, make any adjustments (macro or micro) with the motor running, even if empty (I single dose). I found the grinder to not work as well if you make adjustments when no running (and if you have beans in the hopper you'll want to run anyway to avoid jamming like any other grinder). Like even if I move the micro a smidge, I have the power on, for whatever reason when I used to do that w/o it running my results weren't consistent.

Posted August 29, 2013 link

Agreed on the running the grinder.  I pulse it quick when adjusting so as not to waste too much good beans.  micro adjusting without grinding at the same time will not break anything unless you MACRO adjust.  But the stress between the two grind cones and the beans is there, so if you grind, it removes most stress. And therefore have a better final reading.  SO grind, grind, grind when even micro adjusting.
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Location: Brentwood, TN
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Espresso: Bezzera Strega
Grinder: Forte, OE Pharos,...
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Drip: Brazen, Kalita, Chemex,...
Roaster: Behmor 1600, CO/UFO combo
Posted Thu Aug 29, 2013, 9:04pm
Subject: Re: Can't choke my Silvia..............by not so Hung Lo
 

CMIN Said:

Generally it's 3 things that would cause this, screw not calibrated (yours is), faulty adjustment ring (you said it was fine), or a faulty/cracked burr holder, did you check the burr holder? Baratza will pry just send you a replacement and make sure it's set to espresso as well.

Posted August 28, 2013 link

To the OP:
If, for whatever reason a lot of stress was put on the burr holder, it will crack. It is the ivory colored plastic part that holds the upper burr.
If you haven't sent yours back as yet, remove the upper burr, and see if you see a hairline crack.
They have greatly improved that part.
The crack can be caused by adjusting your grind finer (with beans in the hopper) with the motor off.
The motor must ALWAYS be running when you adjust your grinder finer.

As you at first weren't familiar with the little screw/window thing, perhaps a thorough reading of the short manual, whilst in the bathroom would be a good thing! LOL
Baratza also has links posted on their website showing pictorially how to perform easy repair/replacement jobs.

 
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MJJ
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Espresso: Rancilio Silvia PID
Grinder: Baratza Vario
Drip: Hario V60
Posted Thu Aug 29, 2013, 9:16pm
Subject: Re: Can't choke my Silvia..............by not so Hung Lo
 

I've had the same problem as you. I needed to add shims underneath the bottom burr so it would grind finer. Baratza mailed me the shims but you really have to take the grinder apart to get them in there. It did the trick though. Even with the shims it needed to be at macro 0, 1 or 2. You need to be somewhat mechanically inclined to do this! I was quite frustrated by the whole thing (had to do the same with a Virtuoso too). However now I have a Vario and am happy with it. Maybe Baratza would replace it for you, or shim it for you if you don't want to take it all apart?
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pmaru77
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Grinder: Maestro Plus
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Drip: KRUPS 4 cup (Melitta #2)
Roaster: Behmor Roaster
Posted Fri Aug 30, 2013, 11:40pm
Subject: Re: Can't choke my Silvia..............by not so Hung Lo
 

New machine on the way.  I will double check the first machine, and do a comparison while I have both. My Maestro Plus is 4 years old and I have not screwed up that machine :)  So I don;t think I screwed up this one.  I've done grinds at 5 settings, 0a 10f 20f 30f 40f and there is a nice gradual difference you would expect, so I think the machine works. But the fine just does not choke or pour correctly.

Will report next week on findings.  I suppose I might have to take a lookie at the 3 window thing by taking the machine apart, but only if I have to.

UPDATE: Got new Preciso and tried 8F setting and it gushed.  Tried 4F still too fast, Tried 0A and it choked the machine totally.  So I took it apart and set the 3 window thingie at the finest setting.  So now I'm running on about 3 or 5 depending on beans, and finally using the mirco settings.  Case closed .....for now..........hopefully for a long time.  At least I am getting to understand how this thing is built and will be able to maintain it for a long time, because of great service and parts availability.
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pmaru77
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Location: San Diego
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Grinder: Maestro Plus
Vac Pot: Yama
Drip: KRUPS 4 cup (Melitta #2)
Roaster: Behmor Roaster
Posted Sat Sep 7, 2013, 12:32pm
Subject: Re: Can't choke my Silvia..............by not so Hung Lo
 

Updated..see above.
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