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tanninbomb
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Posted Sat Jul 27, 2013, 1:05pm
Subject: Manual or electric for espresso
 

Okay, I've done enough research here to drive me crazy trying to decide on a grinder, but I have an odd choice to pose here to get opinions.

  1. I do like a good expresser, but not to the impressive level of many on this forum. I like a nice crema and some sweetness; just not the bitter, astringent stuff you can get when it is not done well.

  2. I will probably only grind espresso and then probably on 4-5 cups a week (I know, life offers more, but ...)

  3. I have a Jura pressure pump machine.

  4. My urban, historic home does not allow me to store anything more than about 14" in height.

  5. I need to keep this whole excursion down below $200.

So...

Yes, I know the OE Lido is top drawer for a manual, but it does not seem to be available and the owners have not responded to me in now a week of emails. Onward...

I have read some good reviews on the dinky Hario Mini Mill. As cheap as it is, it seems to work for my small batches.

The other is the Baratza Encore (no, not the Virtuoso, which is too tall and over my $200 limit.)

Thoughts?

Thanks!
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emradguy
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Posted Sat Jul 27, 2013, 4:39pm
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Yeah, looks like the Lido is being redesigned. I think the OE site says they're targeting October. Under $200, I'd personally stick with manual...Hario, Porlex, Zassenhaus (& Lido if you can wait for the new one or find a used one). Speaking of used, maybe you can find a good used electric?

 
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Rhinoevans
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Posted Sun Jul 28, 2013, 12:43am
Subject: Re: Manual or electric for espresso
 

Maybe consider buying smaller amounts of coffee  and having it ground for you.  WOW, cant believe I said that, cause I NEVER buy ground coffee!...And wait till you can save a bit more cash and get a desent grinder at low cost.  I am not  a Baratza fan, buy my Rocky is now ten years old and has been perfect with no issues.  SOme people complain of Rocky for grinds other than espresso.  I dont know, cause I ONLY grind espresso.

Good luck.  \

BTW  a used Rockey should be under $200, since new they are only $350

Doesnt look like the Baratza goes the distance.  I hear, good in the beginning, but trouble down the road.  I speak from NO experience on this, just look at post on subject.
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Posted Sun Jul 28, 2013, 7:44am
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I feel I am posting this reply too much on CG but I still stick with it.  The Hario Skerton is a great little grinder.  If you add a simple M8 Posylock nut you have yourself a good stepless hand espresso grinder.  You can also mod for press down the road.

Amazon.com Skerton for $40

M8 Nut "any hardare store"

Press mod
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gstcyrf
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Posted Thu Aug 1, 2013, 8:14am
Subject: Re: Manual or electric for espresso
 

For under 200 I would forget about an electric grinder. The encore is a great grinder but not made for authentic espresso, I'd say that pressurized espresso is the encore's grind consistency limit. I agree with Burner0000, a Skerton mod to stepless could be a good choice for now until you can afford a rocky or baratza preciso.

And the encore and virtuoso are pretty much the same size, I have both

good luck
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