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Chanty
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Posted Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:57am
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No, the wonderful world of Espresso is making me nuts.  This is the only group of people I know that maybe "get me" that way.   My family & friends think I'm crazy & look at me like I'm from another planet.  Trust me, they would not go through what I go through to get a decent cup of cappuccino.     No, it did not flow faster when micro was on B, but I have had it happen where I have it on a finer grind & it is flowing slow & all the sudden turns into a blonding gusher.  
When we were calibrating finer, you are supposed to hear a tone change as it gets finer.  We heard NO tone change, thus I don't know if that means it is as fine as it is going to get or what.   The tool has "finer" engraved with arrows showing the direction to go finer on the tool.  You stick it in the hole & turn it (I believe it is clockwise in the direction of the arrows).  It's not rocket science, so I have no idea why we didn't hear a tone change.
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Posted Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:15pm
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Make sure that the calibrating tool is completely in. I had the problem of not getting it completely in and it should be a slight challenge to get it back out after you calibrate

Put the two sliders all the way to the bottom and remember the sound you hear. Go to the point you want to calibrate off of (default is 1 Macro and halfway on Micro), I used 2A. As you calibrate finer the machine should sound like its struggling (I didn't know what they meant by tone either). After this, pull back a few micros (mine is about 2G) and try a shot. After you tamp, you should not be able to see any granuales (should be smooth).

Maybe the humidity or whatnot knocked the heck out of the calibration?
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Chanty
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Posted Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:24pm
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The tool was in because my hubby did have a problem getting it out.  If you heard "struggling" or "laboring" of the grinder as you were calibrating it--that would be the tone you were looking for.  We heard nothing.  Yet, when I moved the micro all the way down to the bottom & turned grinder on & moved them slowly up--I heard a tone (more like a chirpy noise) at H.
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Posted Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:35pm
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I can't tell by your last response if you had the grinder running while you were calibrating or not (since you said '& turned the grinder on').

You can try making a video and i'm sure people might be able to identify the 'chirping noise' because the first thing i think of is burrs touching. But I cant tell by the descriptions. I'd consider touching buurs to be more a 'screetching sound' so you're probably fine. My Vario just sounds like it ran a marathon when i go to 2A. I don't want to have you keep calibrating finer until the burrs touch.
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Chanty
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Posted Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:54pm
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Whenever I am going UP or finer on Micro or Macro, the motor is on & running.  When I move down, one does not need to have the motor running.  When I was calibrating, the motor was on so we would be able to hear the "tone" (which we did not).   The more I talk about this, the stupider I feel....
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Posted Mon Jun 24, 2013, 2:43pm
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I recalibrated.  Why?  Because to me, it wasn't fine enough if I had to have the grinder on Micro B to get a slower shot.  Now I hear the chirpy noise at Q instead of H.  I'm getting so confused.  I'm assuming my "chirpy" noise is the tone or the laboring we are to hear when it is recalibrated to finer, right?   So does this mean I can try grinding my beans at Q tomorrow or does that mean it will be really, really fine at Q because of the recalibration chirping noise at Q.  Please say I'm making some sense....arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Posted Mon Jun 24, 2013, 3:57pm
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Colin (Baratza) told me if he was calibrating he would have it at Macro 1, Micro Q.  I don't use 1, only 2 on macro.  Macro 1 seems to choke.   Does anyone who soley drinks espresso drinks use Macro 1 instead of 2?
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Posted Mon Jun 24, 2013, 8:42pm
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You can use pliers to grip the upper burr for removal, it's easy this way. If you don't want to scratch it just put some masking tape over your pliers' teeth. Baratza sells a burr removal tool on their website for $10, but pliers will save you the bother of buying this.
  My Vario is starting to make a nasty squealy noise. Time to open it up (again), last time a screw had loosened somewhere around the belt.
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Posted Tue Jun 25, 2013, 9:30am
Subject: Re: Baratza Vario in the Summer/Humidity
 

Chanty Said:

I recalibrated.  Why?  Because to me, it wasn't fine enough if I had to have the grinder on Micro B to get a slower shot.  Now I hear the chirpy noise at Q instead of H.  I'm getting so confused.  I'm assuming my "chirpy" noise is the tone or the laboring we are to hear when it is recalibrated to finer, right?   So does this mean I can try grinding my beans at Q tomorrow or does that mean it will be really, really fine at Q because of the recalibration chirping noise at Q.  Please say I'm making some sense....arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Posted June 24, 2013 link

I did exactly what you did. I got a choke at 2J instead of like 2A. it makes perfect sense and was what i was telling you I did earlier. Your description of chirpy gives me the shivers though. I never like to hear that. But like I said it could sound different to me. why i mentioned a video or something.

The only reason someone would calibrate on macro 1 is if they needed the coarsest grinds for press or something.

It's good practice to have the machine running when you are going coarser too. I find a lot of excess ground still come out. Whether it's necessary is up to date but whenever i touch the sliders the grinder is on.
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Chanty
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Posted Tue Jun 25, 2013, 9:56am
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brianl, you said, " Your description of chirpy gives me the shivers though. I never like to hear that".    I brought this up with Colin, one of the main techs at Baratza who works on Varios all the time.  This is what he said, "The sounds can be heard as either a chirp or a laboring noise, the finer you go, the more it begins to sound like a laboring motor. This is totally normal and should not be of concern".
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