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Chanty
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Posted Sat Jun 22, 2013, 4:14pm
Subject: Vario Grinder, going from micro O to C and blonding issues
 

I'm sooooo frustrated. The tabs on the micro/macro seem to be staying put so I don't need to add shims, so I don't know why the grinder is acting so temperamental.    I went through the whole fall/winter/spring & worked beautifully.  No matter what blend of beans I used; it was pretty consistent.  The last month blonding is happening way too soon (10-15 sec.) & have to keep making it finer.  Wasting so much coffee.   Now today, I blew through a 1/2 lb. of beans just about in one session.  They were only Day 5 (post roast), so not old.  I started on O on the micro---blonded in about 10-15 seconds.  Then ended up at C (12 steps finer).  That seemed to work okay.  I've never ever had to go that fine in one day of opening a new roast or the same day of opening the new roast.   Is the Vario that temperamental with humidity?  I had my old Gaggia MDF for years & that never was finicky with the different blends.  I got rid of it because it didn't have enough steps to work optimum for me.    Is this just me????? Thanks
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Posted Sat Jun 22, 2013, 4:29pm
Subject: Re: Vario Grinder, going from micro O to C and blonding issues
 

I thought of this thread by brianl, though you may have seen it

http://coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/grinders/631352

 
D4F also at
http://www.gaggiausersgroup.com/
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Chanty
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Posted Sat Jun 22, 2013, 5:08pm
Subject: Re: Vario Grinder, going from micro O to C and blonding issues
 

I did see it.  I'm not mechanical, and maybe I just need to find a good solid grinder that I don't have to play around with.  I love the customer service at Vario, but no one should have to be recalibrating a newer Vario nor playing around with adding shims because the arms loosen.  These are things (for $400) that should not be an issue.
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Posted Sun Jun 23, 2013, 2:18pm
Subject: Re: Vario Grinder, going from micro O to C and blonding issues
 

Like discussed in my posts. It's not the grinder. It's the beans when they get humid. They age faster and ask that jazz.
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Chanty
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Posted Sun Jun 23, 2013, 2:37pm
Subject: Re: Vario Grinder, going from micro O to C and blonding issues
 

I have to respectively disagree with you.  I received my 2nd Vario in September when our humidity in Wisconsin was still really, really (did I say REALLY?) high.  Last summer was unbearable with humidity & went into September with high humidity.   I did not have this issue in our worst humidity, so I have a hard time believing it is going to make my Vario gusherville unfunctionable now.  The Vario before that had no issues that I remember with gushers in humidity.  What happened with that one was a screw came loose inside the machine, so had to send it back.    I'm thinking either it has lost calibration (it was finely calbitrated--more so than what the machine initially comes at) or there are bigger problems.  Very upset, as I cannot use it & don't even know what the heck we did with the calibration tool if that is even the problem......arghhhhh
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Posted Sun Jun 23, 2013, 3:26pm
Subject: Re: Vario Grinder, going from micro O to C and blonding issues
 

you should be re calibrating every couple weeks with the Vario. it's $400, sure, but that's relatively cheap in the grinder world.
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Chanty
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Posted Sun Jun 23, 2013, 3:31pm
Subject: Re: Vario Grinder, going from micro O to C and blonding issues
 

I was never under the impression I had to recalibrate every few weeks. NEVER
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Posted Sun Jun 23, 2013, 10:41pm
Subject: Re: Vario Grinder, going from micro O to C and blonding issues
 

I've owned both a Vario and now (the past nearly a year) a Vario-W.
I recalibrate about every 6-8 weeks. Also, different seasons mean different beans.
One thing I'd recommend is a thorough cleaning, including removing the lower burr. Make sure you run the Macro and Micro arms up and down several times, and maybe at a distance, spray a bit of compressed air in each levers "groove."

After reassembly, perform your calibration.
Let us know if that helps!

 
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Chanty
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Posted Sun Jun 23, 2013, 10:55pm
Subject: Re: Vario Grinder, going from micro O to C and blonding issues
 

We removed the upper burr & cleaned & blew out coffee debris/grinds.  Colin said we only had to remove the upper.  Also moved the micro/macro levers up & down several times.
We found the calibration tool & followed the exact directions to recalibrate to finer.  When moving the lever completely down on Macro & Micro, then turned on & moved Macro slowly up to 1.  It made no straining or different tone until it got to 1 on the Macro.  Then it sounded more chirpy than a tone.  Moved micro up to 1/2 mark (M).   Calibrated, but did not hear any tone change.  Moved Micro down to bottom.   Turned machine on & slowly moved up to middle- (M).  When it got to M,  the tone changed, again to a "chirpy" noise.  Don't know if that is a normal tone for the "laboring" sound one is supposed to hear.   I will try making my espresso in the afternoon to see if cleaning the burrs & recalibrating (even though it sounded chirpy) worked or not.
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