Zelkrin Senior Member Joined: 23 Dec 2012 Posts: 3 Location: Canada Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Sun Jun 9, 2013, 10:49pm Subject: Baratza Vario (With Ditting Burrs) Vs Preciso for Filter Coffee, maybe Espresso
I realize that this topic has been beaten to death on all of the forums, but I have an important question to ask that I cannot find a comparison for. I currently use the aeropress for filter coffee. I order high quality washed beans from Phil and Sebastian roasters in Calgary. They are generally light roasted, hard beans with high acidity and bright flavors that with an often fruity profile. (Still however many have some earthy notes with chocolate and dark berry).
I currently use a Hario mini mill/Aeropress combination and have been quite impressed with the quality of coffee I am able to produce for under $100 bucks of equipment. Sadly, it gets tiring and weary grinding away on the little mini mill day after day. I worry that I will develop carpal tunnel syndrome or something if I keep this up for years into the future. So it is time for an upgrade and my mini mill will have to wait patiently in the cupboard for camping trips and vacations.
Here is the question I have. As I take this step up, I want a machine above all, that produces excellent filter coffee with good grind uniformity and fewer fines than I get with my Hario ceramic burr. One day I will venture into espresso and will hope that my grinder could also perform to a high standard (for an early espresso aficionado).
So for this purpose (and yes I know that the Ditting burrs for the Vario cannot do espresso):
Should I select the Vario with Ditting Burrs for filter or should I select a Baratza Preciso? (I would consider buying a set of ceramic burrs in the future for the Vario if they would indeed be superior to the Preciso for espresso.)
Assume that cost is not an option between these grinders and that major differences in filter brew quality will be the mainstay of my decision.
Which would provide superior filter coffee or are they about even in this respect? Would one be easier than the other to run 2-3 different types of coffee through with a quick cleaning between? (I never ever use flavored beans BTW) Will conical burrs of the Preciso vs the flat (Ditting Steel) burrs of the Vario produce different flavour profiles for filter coffee? Will either of these grinders have the durability to last several years? Drawbacks vs benefits of the dialing system for particle size on these grinders? Should I buy a Virtuoso with Preciso blades and just eat the cost of a much higher quality espresso ginder if and when the time comes?
From my research I seem to have found that both of these grinders are or excellent quality for the price (especially the Preciso). But if anyone has any other suggestions of brands for superior filter coffee that would rival these, please let me know.
I have little experience with espresso and if the answer to this question is that both of these grinders would suck for espresso, and I should bite the bullet and buy an $800-1300 grinder for that purpose, then I would also appreciate that advice.
(Please repost this in the appropriate thread if I have doubled up on a previous post I missed)
Posted Thu Jun 13, 2013, 11:57am Subject: Re: Baratza Vario (With Ditting Burrs) Vs Preciso for Filter Coffee
I think this is a great question and maybe not so beaten to death as we may think: it seems that most of the comparison info regarding the preciso involves the grinder before baratza did their latest series of improvements in response to problems with the grind settings drifting (or grinder failure so I've heard). I purchased a 2013 Preciso and have used it for about 2 months now and started to encounter some problems the night before I left on vacation. So although I can't be too much help in answering your actual questions, I think it's important to relate answers to the most updated Preciso. I'm now considering making use of my warantee and going for a Vario so I avoid continued headaches with preciso problems. Ill be checking this thread to see what more experienced users have to say! On a side note, the preciso produced wonderful shots before I encounters this problem (Gaggia GC) and astounding drip on a family members's Technivorm.
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