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myallawala
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Posted Mon Mar 25, 2013, 4:23pm
Subject: New Baratza Commercial Grinder
 

Looks like Baratza is releasing a new workhorse:

Click Here (www.baratza.com)

It looks clunky but I imagine it'll be pretty awesome. I hope they refine some of the look though.. I expected the next Baratza to look way more attractive than this after the Vario.

Edit: Can't seem to find much info on the burrs.. size/shape?

Edit edit: 54mm flat like the vario
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Posted Tue Mar 26, 2013, 1:51pm
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Can't wait to get this puppy in our shop. Will post pictures and reviews when it arrives!

Josh.
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Posted Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:04am
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Looks like it's up on the Baratza website; no specs yet, but with a general release set for July :)
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Supernas
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Posted Tue Jun 11, 2013, 10:29am
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So it is the same grinder with a better screen? Or am I missing something?
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Posted Tue Jun 11, 2013, 3:06pm
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So I have a Mazzer Mini E on order (just placed yesterday). Any reason to stop that order in place of this? Any reason this would be better at a similar price point? Opinions ASAP please.
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Posted Tue Jun 11, 2013, 3:27pm
Subject: Re: New Baratza Commercial Grinder
 

I would cancel, but that's just me. I'm definitely a fan of Baratza and their customer service. The Vario grinds on par with a Super Jolly, but many don't like it because of the plastic parts. The ceramic burrs are great, and there is no grind retention. The Forte appears to be the same as the Vario with all the weaknesses addressed, specifically a metal enclosure. Throw precise weight-based grinding (into a portafilter!), and I'm sure it's going to be a major winner.
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Posted Tue Jun 11, 2013, 3:34pm
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But doesn't more $ get you more quality. Regular Vario is $450 and Mini E is $875. People talk about it being bullet proof, etc. This new Vario screams an LCD version for $450 more. Also, this has 58mm burrs or 56 or something and the Mazzer has 64mm. Shouldn't that produce a better grind?

I am still new to this and pretty confused. I naturally assume Vario would be poor, Mini E better, SJ even better and K30 best.
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Posted Tue Jun 11, 2013, 3:35pm
Subject: Re: New Baratza Commercial Grinder
 

With that said, however, whenever a new product is released to the public, there are kinks to work out for those who jump on board right away. So I may wait several months to purchase...
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Posted Tue Jun 11, 2013, 3:38pm
Subject: Re: New Baratza Commercial Grinder
 

jgaepi Said:

But doesn't more $ get you more quality. Regular Vario is $450 and Mini E is $875. People talk about it being bullet proof, etc. This new Vario screams an LCD version for $450 more. Also, this has 58mm burrs or 56 or something and the Mazzer has 64mm. Shouldn't that produce a better grind?

I am still new to this and pretty confused. I naturally assume Vario would be poor, Mini E better, SJ even better and K30 best.

Posted June 11, 2013 link

Yes and no. I think most would say that the Mini E is priced because of the quality of its build. It is bulletproof. But as for grind and the results in the cup, I've read plenty of forums saying the Vario produces an espresso grind similar to the SJ.

And yes, in my book, the K30 is the best :)
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Posted Tue Jun 11, 2013, 6:55pm
Subject: Re: New Baratza Commercial Grinder
 

A vario for a $1000? For that much more I would expect that they redesigned/fixed their issues with the grind adjustment mechanism. I can't wait to hear it all from the hypesters saying again how another baratza grinder can do it all!
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