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vg
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Posted Mon May 20, 2013, 7:02pm
Subject: Need new grinder; should I go with Ceado?
 

My first grinder, a good'ol Rocky died on me after about 18 months only when the lower burr got completely stuck. Ok, it's a bit my fault as I had never cleaned it and, to make matters worse, my wife uses very dark and only beans -- a killer for an Italian grinder as I've learned.

I have been reading the forums and reviews here and elsewhere for a few months and I was going to make a decision between, most likely, a Macap M4 and a Compak K3 Touch. But then I stumbled upon fantastic offers for a Ceado, either E6 or E7 at a 33% discount.

At these prices, it appears I could be having a SJ-class grinder at a Mini-class price. Should I dive?

The videos on the Ceado grinders up at WLL show fantastic technical details. The very few reviews on these grinders available online are all very positive. But I'm still hesitating for the following reasons:

  • the company seems little known and the huge discount offered by the reseller spells "we stop carrying this brand". Will I be able to find parts if the need arises?

  • the E6 and E7 models are huge, 24" with the standard bean hopper and a 9 x 14.5" footprint. I have very little counter space without a (rather) low cabinet above. How do you guys convince your wife to leave entry to such a beast in the kitchen? ;-)

  • if I take the plunge,  E6 or E7? From what I can gather, the only difference between the two is a 300 vs 400 W motor. The E6 must be (more than) enough for home use, no?

[FWIW, the espresso machine is a Silvia that I'd like to upgrade in, say/hopefully, the next 12 months. I want to settle to grinder issue for good.]

Any thoughts? Am I right to be dismayed to go for a K3T for the same price as a E6 just to save some space?

Thanks in advance!

Vincent
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Posted Mon May 20, 2013, 7:38pm
Subject: Re: Need new grinder; should I go with Ceado?
 

FYI, there's a Macap M4 on the BST forum now going for $350 iirc. Owner says it's ground only about 30#, so it ought to last a long time before needing new burrs. I think that's a very good price (in fact, if I were selling one of mine I'd prolly be asking $400).

Edit:
That Macap is actually up for $325

Edit again:
Make that $300...goes any lower, I may buy it for single dosing.

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Posted Sun May 26, 2013, 7:19am
Subject: Re: Need new grinder; should I go with Ceado?
 

If you're not averse to hand grinding, I just got a pharos from Orphan Espresso for ~$275, and the results have been mindblowing.
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Posted Fri May 31, 2013, 12:52am
Subject: Re: Need new grinder; should I go with Ceado?
 

I am biased towards the K3 Touch polished, since I own one!  However, it is an amazing grinder, has a small footprint, is beautifully finished, extremely well made, and should provide for many espresso machine upgrades!  IMHO, it is one of the best grinders in it's class & price range!  Good luck with your choice!
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Posted Fri May 31, 2013, 11:03am
Subject: Re: Need new grinder; should I go with Ceado?
 

I just purchased the Ceado E37S from WLL. I've had it about 2 weeks and I'm thoroughly happy with it. Didn't take long to dial in. Big, big, improvement over the MDF I was using.
The Ceado is super quiet and very fast. WLL included a short Mazer hopper at no additional charge that allows the grinder to fit nicely under my cabinet.
I must say, WLL provided great customer service also.
BTW, the sale price came in at just under $1k!
Pete
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Posted Wed Jun 12, 2013, 3:20pm
Subject: Re: Need new grinder; should I go with Ceado?
 

Vincent, I have the feeling that the same sale as caught you attention caught mine. I have many of the same questions as you posted. Did you ever go ahead and buy or obtain more info?

Personally I already made one bad decision when I purchased my Mahlkonig ProM All Around. I would like to assure that my next purchase is a good one.
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vg
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Posted Sun Jul 21, 2013, 8:25am
Subject: Re: Need new grinder; should I go with Ceado?
 

Ok, I haven't been a good netizen here, failing to reply earlier. The upside is that I now have some experience with my Ceado E6.

I decided to go with the E6 since there was a fantastic sale at IDrinkCoffee.com here in Canada. At $500, it was actually cheaper than a Compak K3 whie being slightly higher on the quality scale, from what I can gather. I also had the option go to with the E7, which was $100 more... and 2" higher. Otherwise, the only difference seem to be a 300W motor on the E6 vs a 400W one on the E7. Not important for light home use, IMO.

On the looks side, I was a bit disappointed. This grinder is built for commercial use, not to show off on a counter. The body is actually a fairly matte gray, not stainless as a Macap or Mazzer. The doser and portafilter holder have a stainless finish, though. All in all, I'd say the looks are more along the lines of "I mean business" than "I'm as good as I look".

The thing is really quite big. I have to use it without the hopper since I don't have any counter space without cabinets above. I tried for a couple of days to pull it out every time to put the bean hopper on, but the latter is also so large (high *and* wide) that I had to pull the grinder so far that the tray was lying outside the counter. Not practical and I'm satisfied with the hopper-less performance so far.

This is my first dosered grinder and I'm not sure I really like it. In the first days I would waste a lot of coffee as I single dose. I now pretty much got the hang of it, but I probably need to buy a good scale to weigh my doses.

The grinder is very quiet, no comparison with my former Rocky.

Grinding quality, you ask? Oh. I was in awe when I pulled my first quality shot. Thick, velvety crema. Would you accept the qualifying word "smooth" for the grind? I have found it very consistent and without any noticeable or disturbing clumping.

The videos at WLL sold me to this grinder. The build quality is really excellent. Cleaning is a snap with the brilliant head construction.

In summary, if money was really no object, I'd probably prefer the doserless E37. But is was 2.5 time the price of the E6. For the price I paid, I think I made a good choice.
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