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DuncanIdaho
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Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 8:01am
Subject: Re: Thinking of a buying a new grinder..
 

emradguy Said:

I think you've gotten sood advice so far, but you haven't laid out any parameters on what you're looking for other than implying something stepless or nearly stepless, and perhaps less messy.

What's your budget?
Will you consider used?
Do you have height/space restrictions?
Would you consider manual?
Do you plan to single dose, or do you want to utilize a hopper?
Do you want to stay with a doser, or are you considering doserless?
Are you interested in flat or conical burrs?

If you can answer these questions it would be a lot easier to pick out a group of grinders to consider from the vast ocean of those better than the Rocky in all respects.

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900
Maybe
No
Yes
Hopper
Don t care to much for a doser much don't understand it for home use
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jwoodyu
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Espresso: Allex Duetto II
Grinder: Mazzer Major
Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 8:27am
Subject: Re: Thinking of a buying a new grinder..
 

IMO - I feel like i should start every post this way :)

Mazzer with a screen is waste which in turn means the any of the E models are a waste because I am going to sweep the chute every time. I am going to quick sweep the either the funnel or doser every time. IF you really think you can't get past sweeping and a doser then:

1.) Baratza Vario
2.) Drop the other shoe and by the K-30 Vario or a K8/K10 Fresh
3.) Hold out for the Baratza Forte in a couple of months

I really don't want to die on the doser/doserless hill but I use to think I could never live with a doser, I was wrong.

 
Yes i have a reason for leaving SCG off my list, yes it is my opinion, yes it is subjective as opinions are by definition, no don't start a flame war because you disagree.
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OttoMatic
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Location: Colorado
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Espresso: Brewtus IV-R
Grinder: Mahlkönig K30 Vario,...
Drip: Capresso MT500+
Roaster: Cast iron dutch oven
Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 8:45am
Subject: Re: Thinking of a buying a new grinder..
 

jwoodyu Said:

2.) Drop the other shoe and by the K-30 Vario.

Posted May 8, 2013 link

That's what I did, and couldn't be happier.
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DuncanIdaho
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Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 10:27am
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K 30 would be nice but puts me 1600 over budget..
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tglodjo
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Location: Jackson, TN
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Espresso: La Spaziale Mini Vivaldi II
Grinder: Baratza Vario, Virtuoso
Drip: Wave, V60, Chemex, Clever
Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 10:30am
Subject: Re: Thinking of a buying a new grinder..
 

I use a Baratza Vario-W and absolutely love it. First, I'm spoiled by the weighed dosing. Everything remains very consistent because of this feature. I also use it for espresso through french press and have been very happy with it's ability to grind for multiple methods. It's superb for my needs. With that said, and with your budget, I would wait a couple of months for the Forte (I really want one!) or stretch the budget for a K-30 Vario. But I can say you won't be sorry with the Vario-W. It is lightyears better than the Rocky. Also, if you're sticking with the Silvia, it seems to me that $1,000+ for a grinder would be overkill. But that's just my own financial opinion. I do recognize that the grinder is the most important component.
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jwoodyu
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Espresso: Allex Duetto II
Grinder: Mazzer Major
Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 10:40am
Subject: Re: Thinking of a buying a new grinder..
 

K-30 = 1600
Budget = 900
Deficit = 700

Forte = 900
Budget = 900
Deficit = 0

Vario = 450
Budget = 900
Surplus = 450

 
Yes i have a reason for leaving SCG off my list, yes it is my opinion, yes it is subjective as opinions are by definition, no don't start a flame war because you disagree.
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DuncanIdaho
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Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 10:42am
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I see what your saying I want to be at the point where my grinder is not holding me back it came with the machine I got used its beat up.. I did some mods to my Silvia and am very happy with how it runs. I just wanted a better grinder that will survive a upgradded espresso machine way down the road.. Its just between 8 and 9 on my rocky I get almost 3 oz of espresso with a triple basket in 19 seconds goto 8 and I get almost a stall.. I was looking at this machine also..

What about a mcap m4?
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OttoMatic
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Espresso: Brewtus IV-R
Grinder: Mahlkönig K30 Vario,...
Drip: Capresso MT500+
Roaster: Cast iron dutch oven
Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 12:34pm
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Keep an eye out for used stuff if you're amenable to that.  I got my K30 Vario for $1K.
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emradguy
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Location: Houston
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Espresso: Duetto II; Twist v2
Grinder: M Major, Macap M4, Pharos,...
Drip: Espro presses; Aeropress
Roaster: H-B "List of Favorites"
Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 6:08pm
Subject: Re: Thinking of a buying a new grinder..
 

I have 2 Macap M4s...bought my first one while I had my Silvia, and my second one with my Duetto. It's a great grinder, it's actually quite a bit quieter than the Rocky, the stepless adjustment is a dream to operate, the sweep mechanism in the doser is excellent (dosers allow you to do something else while grinding, and they also help break up clumps, they probably drop grounds in the pf cleaner than a chute too (but maybe not). Have you looked at the HG one? Other than lack of a hopper, it fulfills all of your needs, and you have the option of Major or Robur burrs...to me that's hard to beat.

 
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Always remember the most important thing is what ends up in your cup!
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DuncanIdaho
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Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 6:58pm
Subject: Re: Thinking of a buying a new grinder..
 

jwoodyu Said:

IMO - I feel like i should start every post this way :)

Mazzer with a screen is waste which in turn means the any of the E models are a waste because I am going to sweep the chute every time. I am going to quick sweep the either the funnel or doser every time. IF you really think you can't get past sweeping and a doser then:

1.) Baratza Vario
2.) Drop the other shoe and by the K-30 Vario or a K8/K10 Fresh
3.) Hold out for the Baratza Forte in a couple of months

I really don't want to die on the doser/doserless hill but I use to think I could never live with a doser, I was wrong.

Posted May 8, 2013 link

I can get past those if the grinder options are better... I don't mind it to much...
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