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DuncanIdaho
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Posted Tue May 7, 2013, 8:33pm
Subject: Thinking of a buying a new grinder..
 

I have a silvia and a rocky doser  I don't like this grinder it's to messy and I'm at a point where I'm stuck between clicks and cannot quite get it right.. I was looking at the vario and the vario-w is there something else I should be looking at? I read some threads on these grinders but they where a few years old thanks for the help...
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Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 3:06am
Subject: Re: Thinking of a buying a new grinder..
 

How much are you willing/able to spend?

DuncanIdaho Said:

... and I'm at a point where I'm stuck between clicks and cannot quite get it right ...

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This is quite common with the Rocky and other stepped grinders. To avoid this you should look for a stepless or at least virtually stepless grinder. The entry level grinder that falls into that category is the Baratza Preciso. The Vario (-W) also has so many settings that it comes very close to being stepless.

Depending on your budget you might want to take a look at the Nuova Simonelli MCI, any Mazzer, or the Compak K3-touch, to name but a few.

 
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DuncanIdaho
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Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 4:39am
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i was looking at this guy to....

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OttoMatic
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Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 5:49am
Subject: Re: Thinking of a buying a new grinder..
 

Well, I had the Mini-E, and was disappointed.  Unless you want to jump higher in price, I'd probably give the Vario-W a try.  I also like the look and price of this, but I've never played with it.
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Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 5:52am
Subject: Re: Thinking of a buying a new grinder..
 

Used Jolly or Major on a dark room timer

 
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Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 6:14am
Subject: Re: Thinking of a buying a new grinder..
 

OttoMatic Said:

Well, I had the Mini-issue way over pricedand was disappointed.  Unless you want to jump higher in price, I'd probably give the Vario-W a try.  I also like the look and price of this, but I've never played with it.

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What didn't you like about it?

Jwoody in my area everything used is way over priced
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NobbyR
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Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 7:17am
Subject: Re: Thinking of a buying a new grinder..
 

DuncanIdaho Said:

i was looking at this guy to....

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Like I said, any Mazzer grinder will be a noticable upgrade. They're consistent and durable.

 
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Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 7:39am
Subject: Re: Thinking of a buying a new grinder..
 

I think you've gotten some good advice so far, but you haven't laid out any parameters on what you're looking for other than implying something stepless or nearly stepless, and perhaps less messy.

What's your budget?
Will you consider used?
Do you have height/space restrictions?
Would you consider manual?
Do you plan to single dose, or do you want to utilize a hopper?
Do you want to stay with a doser, or are you considering doserless?
Are you interested in flat or conical burrs?

If you can answer these questions it would be a lot easier to pick out a group of grinders to consider from the vast ocean of those better than the Rocky in all respects.

 
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CMIN
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Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 7:40am
Subject: Re: Thinking of a buying a new grinder..
 

I would actually look at the Vario especially for the money, search on here or HB and you'll find plenty that have had it and the Mini line and they put the Vario easily over it for taste in cup etc. Plus the Baratzas are very low retention grinders so depending on how many shots you make or single dosing, that's something to consider. Some have dropped in Super Jolly burrs and then said the taste is pretty much equal as far as against the Vario, which makes sense since many consider the Super Jolley and Vario pretty equal in the cup.
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Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 7:42am
Subject: Re: Thinking of a buying a new grinder..
 

DuncanIdaho Said:

What didn't you like about it?

Posted May 8, 2013 link

Slow -- probably 20+ seconds to grind ~23g.  I couldn't set the timers long enough for this amount of grind.  I guess a positive of this is that you can continue to dose into your PF without getting too much in there; a fast grinder can drop more in your basket than you might want sometimes.

Clumpy -- had to do WDT and bang on them to break them up.

Relatively noisy -- they all are...

Worthless timers -- You can set them, but I wasn't able to get the same amount of coffee out per grind time (I weigh it on a 0.1g resolution scale after the grind time).  I just quit using them.

Grind retention -- there's a little metal grid behind which the coffee sits (at the exit chute) and it tends to pile up.  Many people, myself included, try to sweep that out, but it's a bit of a pain.  My new grinder probably does the same thing, but at least I can't see it!

Uneven distribution -- have to do WDT to not get squirts with a bottomless PF.  

Static -- if you take the grid off, you dramatically reduce clumps and grounds retention, but there's fly-away coffee everywhere.

So, pretty much the usual complaints about the Mini-E.

Now, don't get me wrong; it's a fine grinder, and will probably last longer than I will.  But, for that price, I guess I just expected more.  I didn't care for the fact that I had to play games with it -- kind of like temp surfing with an HX machine.  It was also my first high-end grinder, so I admit that I didn't really know what to expect.  I sold it about three months after buying it new.
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