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uscfroadie
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Posted Sat Apr 27, 2013, 4:47pm
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JohnLyn Said:

I am also interested in regards to comparisons regarding tast between these two different hand grinders. The HB threads have beaten the ergonomics question beyond death. I am curious about differences in the cup if there are any. Seeing as they are both conicals they may not.

Another question I have is a comparison of adjustablilty in order to dial in the shot.

Thanks for sharing your experiences. Personally I am not anywhere near anywhere that I can try either of these out.

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All of your questions have been discussed at length on HB, but let me recap the short version.

Taste - no discernible difference between a Pharos, HG One 71 or 83, Compak K-10 or Robur.  Having owned a Pharos and now an HG One, I can tell you the difference is in the ergonomics.  Be careful though, not all conicals are created equal.  However, once you get to burrs in the range of these titan conicals (68 - 83mm), you've hit the point of diminishing returns.  

Adjustability - HG One wins hands down compared to a stock Pharos.  I have no clue as to the use of a VoodooDaddy Pharos as mine was stock, and like many others, I battled the drifting adjustment, which is just one of the problems the VoodooDaddy mods is supposed to address.

I have a detailed review here on CG if you care to read more.
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Posted Sat Apr 27, 2013, 10:31pm
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uscfroadie Said:

All of your questions have been discussed at length on HB, but let me recap the short version.

Taste - no discernible difference between a Pharos, HG One 71 or 83, Compak K-10 or Robur.  Having owned a Pharos and now an HG One, I can tell you the difference is in the ergonomics.  Be careful though, not all conicals are created equal.  However, once you get to burrs in the range of these titan conicals (68 - 83mm), you've hit the point of diminishing returns.  

Adjustability - HG One wins hands down compared to a stock Pharos.  I have no clue as to the use of a VoodooDaddy Pharos as mine was stock, and like many others, I battled the drifting adjustment, which is just one of the problems the VoodooDaddy mods is supposed to address.

I have a detailed review here on CG if you care to read more.

Posted April 27, 2013 link

Awesome response. This exactly what I have understood from the HB threads but this a nice clean summery. I'll go read more mostly seeking a better understanding of the drifting adjustment.
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Posted Mon Apr 29, 2013, 6:29pm
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I don't know a whole lot about espresso yet, but I know a bit about design and by far the HG One is a more beautifully designed product.  If a grinder could be judged by looks alone, the HG One would win hands down.  It's just gorgeous!
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uscfroadie
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Posted Mon Apr 29, 2013, 7:23pm
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gvegastiger Said:

I don't know a whole lot about espresso yet, but I know a bit about design and by far the HG One is a more beautifully designed product.  If a grinder could be judged by looks alone, the HG One would win hands down.  It's just gorgeous!

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The fit and finish needs to be seen to be understood.  The entire grinder is beautifully crafted metal, with the only pieces non-metal being the rubber feet.
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