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pukipuki
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Posted Sat Apr 20, 2013, 6:02pm
Subject: Steppless Preciso vs 40 steps analogues...
 

I'm looking for an beginner-level grinder for my Gaggia Classic. I'd like to spend about 250, thus my choice is likely between MDF and Virtuoso. I can buy even Preciso if it will make a noticeable difference.

By reading Virtuoso and Preciso comparisons -  main advantage of Preciso now is that it is stepless so that 40 steps of Virtuoso - to wide to dial grinder for espresso. But at the same time, MDF or even Rocky are pretty popular ones and also have 40 steps. They have their weak sides (dozer in case of MDF) but I don't see complaints about the number of steps. 40 steps is kind of standard ... So, 40 steps of Virtuozo isn't the same 40 steps for Rocky/MDF?
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Posted Sat Apr 20, 2013, 6:42pm
Subject: Re: Steppless Preciso vs 40 steps analogues...
 

Stepless is an advantage. If only planning on espresso use consider Lelit pl53. Guessing, from my experience, perhaps less chance of possible breakage. But my experience was with lower end models. If planning on using the grinder for other than espresso, the lelit is espresso only.


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Posted Sat Apr 20, 2013, 8:19pm
Subject: Re: Steppless Preciso vs 40 steps analogues...
 

Wouldn't say the Rocky or MDF are popular, years ago yeh, but their out of date now. Pretty much anybody turns people away from them. And yeh the steps of the Preciso, it basically acts stepless b/c of the micro adjustment, night and day difference there vs the Virtuoso. Seems a lot of people google/search and see people talkong about the Rocky etc being recommended but if they saw the dates of those post they were years ago lol.

Going to stepless or one that acts stepless (Preciso) is just a huge difference, dial it in, beans age dial it a smidgen tighter each day or two. Vs stepped grinders where your caught between steps and have to play with dose wasting coffee, then what about when the beans age and now your dialed in setting doesn't work.
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Posted Sat Apr 20, 2013, 11:00pm
Subject: Re: Steppless Preciso vs 40 steps analogues...
 

I saw old dates etc. I thought it's a specific of the industry and there is not much to say here... in this price range at least ) I don't mind to reset my market research ) So far the summary looks like 40 steps grinders are outdated in this price range ?)

Thanks for pointing on Lelit, dedicated espresso grinder is what I'm looking for.
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Posted Sun Apr 21, 2013, 8:19am
Subject: Re: Steppless Preciso vs 40 steps analogues...
 

Refurbished Precisos run for $239 on the Baratza website, availability updated every Thursday am. They come with a one year warranty and full factory support (same as a new one).

 
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Posted Wed May 1, 2013, 4:13pm
Subject: Re: Steppless Preciso vs 40 steps analogues...
 

Buy the MDF and make it stepless. Nice burrs, infinite adjustment, massive brass burr carrier and made of metal. Lots of people like the Preciso but lots of problems too. MDF gets a bad rap because of the steps. Fix that and it's a fine grinder.
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