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McAldo
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Posted Sun Apr 7, 2013, 6:44pm
Subject: Hand grinders for expresso and aero, which of these?
 

Hi all. I am a newbie looking for a better coffee :)

Apologies in advance if this question has been posed and answered before.
Could anybody advise on which of the following hand grinders would be the better choice for espresso and aero?

Hario Ceramic Slim Mini Mill
Porlex Mini
Porlex  
Hario Skerton

Are they all equivalent, pretty much?

also, I have seen this, which I guess would be not as good quality (I understand good quality butt electric grinders cost significantly more), any opinion?

De'Longhi KG79 Professional Burr Grinder
Click Here (www.amazon.co.uk)

I have done  a bit of reading here and elsewhere, and I understand it's sometimes difficult to determine the right finess setting with the Hario and possibly the porlex too, as there are no marks, and that none of the above might do too well for coarser grinding. My priority is grinding for expresso and aereo, but I own a french press and a stove moka too.

thanks!

Aldo
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Posted Mon Apr 8, 2013, 6:02am
Subject: Re: Hand grinders for expresso and aero, which of these?
 

Aldo,
Welcome to the board!

I have not used those grinders so I can not help in that regard but I CAN help you loose a little noob tell tale.

About the Delonghi, uh, save your money, there is nothing professional about it and I seriously doubt that it has real burrs, replacement burrs for most grinders alone are $50 so what does that tell you about the rest of the grinder?

It is spelled eSpresso, there is no X, this one thing alone will help you down the road by a  lot! :D

I am sure you will get someone to chime in on those grinders but in any case, welcome to the board!

 
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McAldo
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Posted Mon Apr 8, 2013, 9:39am
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calblacksmith Said:

Aldo,
Welcome to the board!

I have not used those grinders so I can not help in that regard but I CAN help you loose a little noob tell tale.

About the Delonghi, uh, save your money, there is nothing professional about it and I seriously doubt that it has real burrs, replacement burrs for most grinders alone are $50 so what does that tell you about the rest of the grinder?

It is spelled eSpresso, there is no X, this one thing alone will help you down the road by a  lot! :D

I am sure you will get someone to chime in on those grinders but in any case, welcome to the board!

Posted April 8, 2013 link

Hey Cal,
Thanks for your reply!
Ok, I'll stay clear of the electric one then, it sounded a bit too cheap to be true :)

I didn't realize I spelled espresso with the X, that's funnily embarrassing actually, I remember pausing a sec to decide what the spelling might be in English :D

Espresso it's how I call it, being Italian, but sometimes words in my language undergo strange transformations while on holiday, panino e salame become panini e salami, moka a moca, caffe' a cafe, so sometimes I get confused about what spelling people will expect in English :)
Being a purist site I should have guessed the spelling would be the Italian one rather than some, uhh, interesting ones I have seen in the UK :D
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Posted Mon Apr 8, 2013, 11:22am
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No experienceo my end but there is a nice little write up on the two Hario's http://prima-coffee.com/blog/hario-skerton-vs-mini-mill

 
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Posted Mon Apr 8, 2013, 12:16pm
Subject: Re: Hand grinders for expresso and aero, which of these?
 

I have both Harios and was thinking about the Porlex mini, but decided to stick with my Hario Mini Slim.

A couple of reasons

- It's much cheaper (half the price?) of the Porlex, so I can justify to myself buying a new one should something happen
- A lot of people on the forums have it and guide towards "clicks" on the grinder
- Handle on the Hario seems more secure to me than the porlex
- Lastly, I like being able to see my grinds in the clear collection container =)

I use it for pour overs, so I can't say how it is for espresso, but I imagine that if your machine isn't super picky, it can do the job. For aeropress it should be great.
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Posted Mon Apr 8, 2013, 12:32pm
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Intrepid510 Said:

No experienceo my end but there is a nice little write up on the two Hario's http://prima-coffee.com/blog/hario-skerton-vs-mini-mill

Posted April 8, 2013 link

Thanks so much, great article and just what I needed to know.
Mini for me then :)
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Posted Mon Apr 8, 2013, 12:45pm
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sgnoobie Said:

I have both Harios and was thinking about the Porlex mini, but decided to stick with my Hario Mini Slim.

A couple of reasons

- It's much cheaper (half the price?) of the Porlex, so I can justify to myself buying a new one should something happen
- A lot of people on the forums have it and guide towards "clicks" on the grinder
- Handle on the Hario seems more secure to me than the porlex
- Lastly, I like being able to see my grinds in the clear collection container =)

I use it for pour overs, so I can't say how it is for espresso, but I imagine that if your machine isn't super picky, it can do the job. For aeropress it should be great.

Posted April 8, 2013 link

Thanks!
I'll go for the Mini Slim then, between what you say and the article above, it sounds like it will make happy.
I didn't realize the mini had the reference clicks, which is great, one of my concerns was having to test every time I wish to grind for the press or moka rather than for espresso or aeropress.

I am honestly uncertain about how picky my machine is. It's a Delonghi EC152 Pump Espresso, a cheap model which gets good reviews.
I do my best to have it behave consistently, with the ground coffee I normally buy from shops.
Recently I got seven samples of the best (well, more expensive at least) qualities the Algerian shop stocks, including blue mountain and kopi luwak, and unfortunately some have lost the initial kick pretty quickly.
I am hoping buying beans and freezing in single portions will work better, and perhaps make up partially for my cheap machine and even worst barista skills :D
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Posted Mon Apr 8, 2013, 1:40pm
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McAldo Said:

Thanks!
I'll go for the Mini Slim then...

Posted April 8, 2013 link

Good choice! I really like my Hario Slim. It served briefly for my espresso setup but is now dedicated to my Aeropress until I can up grade to a Lido. The Slim can work okay for espresso but I noticed a very significant increase in quality when I got a Pharos.

BTW- I think a Slim and Aeropress make a near perfect travel/camping setup.

Cheers,
rj
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Posted Tue Apr 9, 2013, 6:18am
Subject: Re: Hand grinders for expresso and aero, which of these?
 

McAldo Said:

Thanks!
I'll go for the Mini Slim then, between what you say and the article above, it sounds like it will make happy.
I didn't realize the mini had the reference clicks, which is great, one of my concerns was having to test every time I wish to grind for the press or moka rather than for espresso or aeropress.

I am honestly uncertain about how picky my machine is. It's a Delonghi EC152 Pump Espresso, a cheap model which gets good reviews.
I do my best to have it behave consistently, with the ground coffee I normally buy from shops.
Recently I got seven samples of the best (well, more expensive at least) qualities the Algerian shop stocks, including blue mountain and kopi luwak, and unfortunately some have lost the initial kick pretty quickly.
I am hoping buying beans and freezing in single portions will work better, and perhaps make up partially for my cheap machine and even worst barista skills :D

Posted April 8, 2013 link

Don't worry about the machine.  The grinder and the beans will have a much larger impact on your espresso than the machine.
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Posted Tue Apr 9, 2013, 7:47am
Subject: Re: Hand grinders for expresso and aero, which of these?
 

I have a Hario Slim from before I got the Preciso, for the money (think it was $30 Amazon Prime?), it's a great grinder for fine or coarse needs. It is stepped so you'll pry find your self on a setting that is a bit too fine or a bit too coarse if you click back 1, so you can find a range then adjust your dose. It's easier to hold then the Skerton and it's top is sealed so no beans and chaff will be pop corning out.

The Delonghi 152 is just your normal low end pressurized machine (I started with a Bar 32 which is basically the same machine internally). These machines have pressurized portafilters so they don't really make espresso (and make fake crema lol), but you can try to take apart the PF and remove the pressure clip (forces coffee/water through a tiny hole) so you can try to make decent espresso shots. If you leave the PF pressurized don't go too fine with the grinder as it'll get clogged up easily since it's trying to force through a tiny hole and not a normal basket extraction.

But fresh roasted beans and ground right before use on these pressurized machines will still be way better then using preground in them. Great machines to start out/learn on... you'll get the upgrade bug fast though, like I did lol
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