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qualin
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Posted Thu Mar 28, 2013, 8:18pm
Subject: Upgrades from Mazzer Mini E?
 

Hello everyone.

I'm curious about something, it may seem like a stupid question...

Currently, I have a Mazzer Mini Electronic Type A and I'm quite happy with it.

Although, I kind of wonder what is considered to be an upgrade from that grinder?

If I replaced it with a Mahkonig K30 Vario for example, would I really notice an improvement in my espresso?

What kinds of improvements would or should I expect?

I mean, going from a Rancilio Rocky to the Mazzer was a significant upgrade...

 
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Posted Fri Mar 29, 2013, 6:10am
Subject: Re: Upgrades from Mazzer Mini E?
 

Bud, I read a post in another thread a few days ago (I think it was Jmanespresso), saying the jump to huge titans from the mini class makes another huge improvement in the cup...similar to what you and I both experienced going from Rocky to mini class. If I had the dough on hand (and felt confident my wife wouldn't go ballistic), I'd do it in a heartbeat.

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Espresso: Olympia Cremina 2013
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Posted Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:17am
Subject: Re: Upgrades from Mazzer Mini E?
 

I owned a mini, super jolly, K30 vario and now an HG One 83mm. The difference between a mini and the K30 is huge. A real big improvement in taste and convenience. Just be sure to buy the vario and not the ES. It'll grind 17gr in just over 4 seconds with great consistency. And it's really quiet. The burrs are 65mm but perform like 80mm+ Burrs of other brands like mazzer.

With the mini I was always finetuning and trying to get the grind just right. With some beans this was easy and with others pretty hard. There where some beans where the mini just wasn't good enough to get it right. You won't have this problem with a K30. It can handle everything with great consistency and get much more flavours out of the beans.

Just put the portafilter in, let it grind, distribute and tamp. This all takes less than 20 seconds with the K30. It's a great grinder but for home use I like the HG One more. If I'd have to buy an electrical grinder again it will be a K30 vario for sure.
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Posted Fri Mar 29, 2013, 1:32pm
Subject: Re: Upgrades from Mazzer Mini E?
 

Man, I just told myself that I'm happy with my Mini-E and that I'm NOT going to buy the K30 Vario.  But you have me kicking it around once again......  It's almost guaranteed that I'll have the K30 within a year because I just won't be able to hold myself back.  Perhaps I should just do it now.  I'll bring it up with the wife after a few drinks tonight.
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Posted Fri Mar 29, 2013, 1:53pm
Subject: Re: Upgrades from Mazzer Mini E?
 

LOL. Same story here and was able to convince her and buy the K30. Good luck tonight  :-).
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Posted Fri Mar 29, 2013, 2:45pm
Subject: Re: Upgrades from Mazzer Mini E?
 

Anyone know if the K30 will accept the Mazzer small hopper?  I want it to be able to fit under the cabs.  There has to be some type of short hopper for it, right?
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Posted Fri Mar 29, 2013, 3:05pm
Subject: Re: Upgrades from Mazzer Mini E?
 

OttoMatic Said:

Anyone know if the K30 will accept the Mazzer small hopper?  I want it to be able to fit under the cabs.  There has to be some type of short hopper for it, right?

Posted March 29, 2013 link

Yes, there is a short hopper version: 9 1/2" W  x  12 2/3" D  x  17 1/2" H (Short Hopper)
but not sure if is can accept the Mazzer smaller hopper.

You may not be able to get the short hopper version around this time.  It seems that they
have some quality issues with the short hopper.
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Posted Sat Mar 30, 2013, 5:01pm
Subject: Re: Upgrades from Mazzer Mini E?
 

Yes, going from the Mini to the K30 will be a significant upgrade.  You'll notice it both in the taste and overall complexity of the shots, AND, in how much easier it is to get perfectly centered pours without channeling or other issues.

The K30 is a very nice grinder..  
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That said, why dont you consider upgrading to a large conical.  THAT is where you see the largest improvement in your espresso.  The Compak K10 would be my suggestion, I just recently bought one and Im am very much in love with this thing.  IT comes in a doserless version too, just like the K30.. the K10 Fresh.  Though unlike the K30 which has little retention, a doserless conical will have more grounds retention.

But there are other choices too.  I definitely suggest doing some research on a Conical grinder.  Once you get to the large conical, there is nowhere to upgrade too.  And I like that.

 
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