Posted Sun Mar 24, 2013, 9:24am Subject: quality and noise question - Bodum Bistro vs Capresso infinity plastic
I have a bodum bistro currently. I mostly use it for drip, with the occasional pour over or aeropress thrown in. I also have a new-to-me Gaggia coffee coming in the mail. I am considering upgrading to the capresso infinty. I have a few questions:
1)The bistro sounds like a freight train running through my kitchen. How does the capresso rank noise-wise?
2)I am getting a feeling that the capresso has a better espresso grind. Is that actually true?
3)Due to some bring complications I can't get the ss (stainless steel shell) version of the capresso. Does the abs shell make a big difference in static or noise?
Posted Sun Mar 24, 2013, 7:54pm Subject: Re: quality and noise question - Bodum Bistro vs Capresso infinity plastic
Are you talking about the ~$100 Bodum Bistro Conical Burr Grinder or the ~$30 Bodum Bistro blade grinder? If you are talking about the more expensive one with the hopper then you most likely won't see a big difference. In fact, both are pretty much not suited to espresso, assuming you're using a non-pressurized gaggia handle. I have seen Kyle Glanville use a Capresso Infinity on a Silvia and actually choked it, but maybe someone else can comment on that. That still doesn't change the fact that the money spent probably wouldn't be worth it. It would be worth it at $200+ when you look into something like the Breville Smart Grinder, Baratza Virtuoso, etc..
I have a Capresso now and the sound is pretty OK. It seems on par with my Vario but infinitely louder than my Mazzer. Maybe it's less quiet than my Vario.. I don't remember entirely. I put it away when I got my Mazzer.
Posted Mon Mar 25, 2013, 6:13am Subject: Re: quality and noise question - Bodum Bistro vs Capresso infinity plastic
Neither the Bodum Bistro Burr or the Capresso Infinity can grind well for espresso. My Bistro couldn't get fine enough, and even if it could, it would only have one or two steps in the espresso range, and wouldn't be giving a good espresso type grind. The same is true of the Capresso Infinity, which has very similar burrs and adjustment mechanism to the Bistro. If you want to improve your grind on that kind of budget for espresso use, get a hand grinder that can do espresso grind. If you can spend a bit more, look at either a dedicated stepless espresso grinder like the Ascaso I-1, or a Baratza Preciso or Vario.
Fineness isn't the only issue with grinding for espresso by the way, you also need the right kind of grind, with little in the way of fines, and preferably a double peak in the ground size distribution.
It would work but for me it was such an awful experience. And it drove people crazy--all the grinding. It took maybe 30s-1m to grind my dose and sometimes my shot would be totally garbage. Dialing in was really a pain. Making consecutive drinks was just painful for me. I found a Vario on sale and put the order in and just everything about the experience changed. You might consider selling the Bodum and using the money you'd have spent on the Capresso and find a used Breville Smart or MDF or maybe even the Krups GX610050 (I had this one and with a burr modification you can probably use it for the Silvia).
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