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Posted Sat Mar 2, 2013, 10:14am
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Large
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   Stepless

As for the grinder let me recommend...

 
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Posted Sat Mar 2, 2013, 10:29am
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An appearance from our OP would be appropriate at this point.

 
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Posted Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:52pm
Subject: Re: I'm Kicking my new espresso grinder around ...let's discuss
 

shakin_jake Said:

...I'm not looking for nerved up replies (get this, no get that).  Instead, I'm just looking for some casula banter ...  let's keep the price of new at or under $700.

Posted March 1, 2013 link

Hey there Jake - it's Saturday now so I'm feeling a little mellower than before and maybe can literally handle the casula banter thing. And hey - don't worry - no way I'm gonna start talkin' on folks to go buy stuff just 'cause I think maybe it's good. Maybe that thing might be good (you know) just for me and it's maybe (when you think about it) not so great to lay that on other people.  Judging other people or even judging stuff is judgmental, you know, and (if you think) someone could actually take basically what you said and then think it's really meaningful (when maybe it isn't really that meaningful, really) and then take what I said too much like an actual fact and get in a car and actually go and buy something. Now it's really watch-out time basically, because just think - what happens if what they buy turns out to be really bad (or basically just really bad for THEM) and now it's going to all actually be literally on my head that they went out, you know, and bought something bad (or bad for THEM, like I just said, maybe not really bad in ITSELF). Man, I want to just HELP people, but not get into the literal guilt trip thing worrying if their mileage could, you know, literally vary.  After all, my Mom told me once "Everybody's different.  Always remember that."  So I did.  I dunno - you think so too maybe?  Just askin' - hope that's ok.

But I digress.

I read what you were asking really carefully, and thought about how to help without going, you know, TOO far or being judgmental or just selfish about liking just the things that I currently like right now.  Like I was just saying, it can get your head into a bad place and maybe it basically isn't that helpful if all I do is help you waste your money because what I said to do is actually a bad idea, even if the badness is just for YOU and literally not really that bad, you know, for me or OTHER people.  And if I said to literally go buy something made by one specific guy, how would that make other guys who make stuff feel?  Whoo!  Not good at all!  Making expressos is basically hard enough, you know, without all that negativity and bad karma coming back to haunt you trying to make a good coffee and such, and now I'm getting spritzes every time and my PID breaks and now water leaks into the brain box (or some such!) and the grinder (you know, the kind that was good for me and so I said for you to buy one too but it turns out was actually bad for YOU!) jams or the start-up capacitor fuses or leaks or literally goes south.  No way I'm basically getting into that sh** - so thanks for, like, reminding us about that being maybe can happen when you said at the beginning (I mean when you did the starting-off question) about literally not getting into that.  The casula banter thing is what we need more of on these forums, not literally the judgmentalness of - like you say, figuratively "get this no get that."  Basically too much of that, you know, already and just like, literally exchanging thoughts is what we're needing more of here.

So with all those spirits in my mind, maybe one thing you could just think about with a new grinder, like you were asking at the beginning, is checking out some really nice grinders that cost $700.  Then, if you basically want to save a buck or two, I think there are some that cost $699 or $698. Those might be nice too.  But like I said, I'm not really an expert so don't, like literally, take all this to the bank.  Like my Mom also told me, it's a fine line between advice meaning to help and, you know, bad karma, and I have enough trouble with spritzes already.  

Hey - good luck man - hope this turns out really great for you.
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Posted Sat Mar 2, 2013, 1:58pm
Subject: Re: I'm Kicking my new espresso grinder around ...let's discuss
 

TonyVan Said:

...is checking out some really nice grinders that cost $700.  Then, if you basically want to save a buck or two, I think there are some that cost $699 or $698. Those might be nice too.

Posted March 2, 2013 link

Great post. Especially like this part.

EDIT: read a couple more times....I think these deserve an honorable mention as well.

TonyVan Said:

Man, I want to just HELP people, but not get into the literal guilt trip thing worrying if their mileage could, you know, literally vary.

Posted March 2, 2013 link

and

TonyVan Said:

But I digress.

Posted March 2, 2013 link



Genius.
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Posted Sat Mar 2, 2013, 2:45pm
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IMAWriter Said:

An appearance from our OP would be appropriate at this point.

Posted March 2, 2013 link

Why? Why should this thread be any different?  ;^)

 
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Posted Sat Mar 2, 2013, 2:54pm
Subject: Re: Kicking around buying a new espresso grinder...let's discuss this prop
 

JasonBrandtLewis Said:

Why? Why should this thread be any different?  ;^)

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Well, I was hoping this one might be different.
TonyV, I'll get back to you when I stop laughing. ">D
I'd hope NEVER to run into you in a dark alley. You are an ASSASSIN, my man.

OK.
Jake, we're here to help.
Really.

 
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Posted Mon Mar 4, 2013, 1:06pm
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TonyVan Said:

But I digress. .

Posted March 2, 2013 link

Crikey! I thought I'd just found a lost page of Douglas Adams Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy!
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Posted Mon Mar 4, 2013, 1:09pm
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Oh and that other part?
HG One

but don't take my word for it; there's a(two, no-wait-three) complete demonstration(s) of everything you said you didn't want over at HB - just in case you can't help yourself
oh...
and,
it'll cost you more too...
but....
it's all good - right?
right.
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Posted Mon Mar 4, 2013, 9:35pm
Subject: Re: I'm Kicking my new espresso grinder around ...let's discuss
 

First of all...I haven't been ignoring this thread.  Whatever the problem is, I have not been able to sign in completely.  The forum shows me signed in as an active user but I have not been able to post.  I've been sent 3 new passwords & to no avail, when I try to access this site using my PC, I can't get on, so for all of you that yucked it up or made referrence to others not gettign back to their threads...perhaps the board has a bug and the others gave up trying to post.  Just a thought

The only reason I'm on here now, I'm using Mrs. Jake's laptop

So, some of you have asked me sensible questions.  Others, not so much

I was asked what I don't like about my MD-50 Ranchillio.  Compared to some of the newer grinders, I can tell you it doesn't break down.  I hear a lot of users say what good customer service Baratza has, but tell me, if you have a problem with the grinder, what's so good about that?, because the company addresses your issue?  My MD-50 is built like a tank and has never let me down.  So if I had a complaint with it, it'd have to be it's so darn reliable?

I don't know, maybe you can say I just want to see what is over the hill

Okay, this has been about enough pecking I want to do using the Mrs. teeny key board.  I'm going to cut it here.  Perhaps the CG techs will look into my problem, why your forum/board shows I'm signed in yet I can't access any of the posting features plus it says I'm not signed in

One more thing.  I have sent an email to info @ and support @ cg.com...about 24 hours ago.  I've yet to get a reply.  If one of the mods wants to contact me through my inbox, that info is listed for you to use


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Posted Mon Mar 4, 2013, 9:53pm
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shakin_jake Said:

I was asked what I don't like about my MD-50 Ranchillio.  Compared to some of the newer grinders, I can tell you it doesn't break down.  I hear a lot of users say what good customer service Baratza has, but tell me, if you have a problem with the grinder, what's so good about that?, because the company addresses your issue?  My MD-50 is built like a tank and has never let me down.  So if I had a complaint with it, it'd have to be it's so darn reliable?

Posted March 4, 2013 link

I dunno; I never had a problem with my Baratza . . . or my Mahlkönig, for that matter.  As long as the MD-50 is a) stepless, and b) continues to work, I'm even more confused that I was before!

 
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