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smasha
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Posted Tue Oct 23, 2012, 11:36pm Subject: Re: grinder selection Mazer mini or Mahlkönig VARIO home or ....

ok, a few of you have said the doser should be a none issue that leaves the following differeneces: Is the electronic timer accurate on the electronic MOD A/B? Is it worth the extra £/$? What about having the bigger burrs with the same size motor 64 mm instead of 58 mm? are they worth it? thanks coffeegeeks for the info and answers!

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Posted Wed Oct 24, 2012, 3:04am
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smasha Said:

Is the electronic timer accurate on the electronic MOD A/B? Is it worth the extra £/$?

Posted October 23, 2012 link

I have the older model, and you have to adjust the timer by turning a screw. I think the current models have a digital timer display which will make that a lot easier and less "trial and error".

Yes, once set the timer is accurate (which is what you asked) but it doesn't mean you'll get exactly the same dose each time as other factors come into play as well as grind time.

I don't know how much of an advantage the larger burrs are, except that apparently the burrs from the larger Jolly grinder will fit if you ever wanted to do so. I'm guessing (but only a guess) that the larger burrs make for a faster grind.

As to why Mazzer put larger burrs in the "e" version, I've always assumed it is to give the grounds more of a kick out of the grind chamber.

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Posted Wed Oct 24, 2012, 8:37am Subject: Re: grinder selection Mazer mini or Mahlkönig VARIO home or ....

Often, larger burrs are used to keep a high grind volume with slower RPM to keep the coffee cooler.

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Posted Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:21am Subject: Re: grinder selection Mazer mini or Mahlkönig VARIO home or ....

well while deciding what to do the prices has gone up from £449 to £469 over night! meh :) back to trawling ebay I think as that is getting high now. I also misread A1coffee's price, it also has them for £449 only ex VAT! Is a Mazzer for life? Will I ever need to upgrade again?

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Posted Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:25am Subject: Re: grinder selection Mazer mini or Mahlkönig VARIO home or ....

smasha Said: Is a Mazzer for life? Posted October 24, 2012 link yes, definitely, but you may have to change the burrs at some point smasha Said: Will I ever need to upgrade again? Posted October 24, 2012 link need - no; want - well, that's a different story

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smasha
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Posted Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:33am Subject: Re: grinder selection Mazer mini or Mahlkönig VARIO home or ....

I figured the difference between need and want hence said need! similarly replacing burrs or hopper is no biggie. Just knowing it is for life would mean I might be prepared to spend the extra and buy new electronic version with bigger burrs. Cos at the moment on ebay I can only find the mini timer version with doser. Given my espresso machine will be here hopefully friday I gotta getta jiffy on and buy/order a grinder otherwise I will be flat out with my little hand grinder grinding away :P

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Posted Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:58am Subject: Re: grinder selection Mazer mini or Mahlkönig VARIO home or ....

Mechanically and structurally, unless you decide to drop a Mazzer from a height onto a hard surface, they're pretty close to bullet proof. Virtually any spare part is available, and even if the electronics were to go wayward sometime in the future and those spares had become NLA, like all Mazzers, the "e" grinders are essentially quite simple devices, and you'd certainly be able to rig up an alternative form of control. In a domestic situation, most will probably outlive their owners. You can't say that about many appliances these days. Not everyone has had happy experiences with the company you are looking at. At least check out how they deal with warranty (although it is very unlikely you would ever need it). They are cheap though. You might try contacting this company - I'd be perfectly happy to get an ex-demo model.....if they get one into stock. http://www.lovecoffeemachines.co.uk/shopexd.asp?id=52

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Posted Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:10pm Subject: Re: grinder selection Mazer mini or Mahlkönig VARIO home or ....

which company are you referring to as I mentioned two different names .... A1 or coffeeitalia? I had read some negative feedback about A1 but that was it. I am also aware that people on forums are passionate about the topic/subject area and active members will make a lot of noise about something not going right. That is not a very objective or widespread view as there are loads of people and business that would also use them and are not active on forums. The stories were limited to a few instance from what I could find. Most businesses have hiccups. as long as they are dealt with in a professional manner is what counts. Further I did ring them today to discuss and emailed them yesterday and spoke to David whom came across very professional and on the ball and very responsive. But that is off topic. More importantly when will you getting another ex demo Mazzer mini electronic??? me wants one .... I will contact you directly with my details so do let me know. I am keen to buy one shortly, as I said my espresso machine arrives this week and I need a grinder urgently!!

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Posted Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:22pm Subject: Re: grinder selection Mazer mini or Mahlkönig VARIO home or ....

It wasn't A1 I was referring to. The other company trades under several slightly different names though, and you might like to do a search on what people have thought in the past. I don't sell grinders. I don't run a business. The link is to a supplier not to me. I just said I'd be happy to get one from them. FWIW, I paid £399 for a mini-e in 2005 from caffesociety.co.uk. I don't know if they still stock them. They were good to deal with.

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Posted Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:37pm Subject: Re: grinder selection Mazer mini or Mahlkönig VARIO home or ....

cool - I got myself confused about which shop I read what on ...same when I re-read your previous post I released you just suggesting and not plugging your own business. Caffe society only have the larger Mazzers not the smaller ones unfortunately. Thanks for the links very helpful!

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