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acasabia
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Location: Westchester, NY
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Espresso: Expobar Brewtus iv-p,...
Grinder: Quamar M80e, Hario slim
Vac Pot: Yama Vacpot, Aeropress,
Drip: french press
Roaster: hot-air popper.
Posted Sun Oct 14, 2012, 9:16am
Subject: Buying a new grinder, flood me with suggestions please :D
 

Hey all,
After upgrading to a much more capable machine, I have found that my Ascaso I-1d is the only thing slowing me down when producing a few shots at once. That said, Upgrading from here I have seen the price can skyrocket quickly.

Here are my desired features:
  • Larger burrs (bigger than 60mm)
  • Quieter if possible
  • Easy to determine dose size/ programmable dosing, I have been measuring my beans prior to grinding for too long.
  • Easy to distribute doser, or doserless.
  • Longevity, Id like a machine that can last as long as I decide it needs to.
  • easy to find replacement parts

I like the mazzer A-type, but I dont know I could justify the cost of that machine over something like the Quamar M80.

Any suggestions in that range? I havent ruled out the vario yet, though Im not sure it will last as long as I want it to.

 
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Location: Tiskilwa, Illinois
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: QM Anita, Cappuccino Amore
Grinder: Baratza Vario, Mazzer SJ
Vac Pot: Antique McKee, Santos
Drip: Pour Over, Bodum Presses
Roaster: RK Drum
Posted Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:06am
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It sounds like a commercial machine is what your after, but I have a Mazzer on my counter and next to it the Vario I used everyday.  I like them both, the Vario is more convenient and offers delicious coffee without all the hoopla of weighing and such.

I've had my Vario for a couple of years and it runs great, even ran a rock through it one day, no apparent effect.  Its a tough little machine.

 
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Posted Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:58am
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Compac K10. If beyond ur budget then Baratza  Vario. EDIT Good dealer is Chris Coffee. In ur neighborhood. Great service.
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Location: Michigan
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Espresso: Allex Duetto II
Grinder: Mazzer Major
Roaster: Poppery
Posted Sun Oct 14, 2012, 11:15am
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Used Major. I had a Baratza Vario then added a Major the Vario is gone and Major remains.

 
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acasabia
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Location: Westchester, NY
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: Expobar Brewtus iv-p,...
Grinder: Quamar M80e, Hario slim
Vac Pot: Yama Vacpot, Aeropress,
Drip: french press
Roaster: hot-air popper.
Posted Sun Oct 14, 2012, 9:36pm
Subject: Re: Buying a new grinder, flood me with suggestions please :D
 

So I looked up some details and found that for the money, the Quamar m80e seems like the best call. It matches the Mini A type in specs, and settles all of my requirements. If there are any serious qualms with this machine, please speak up now, I will be ordering shortly :)

 
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qualin
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Espresso: Izzo Alex Duetto 3
Grinder: Mazzer Mini Elect. Type A
Vac Pot: Looking to buy
Drip: Manual
Roaster: Considering?
Posted Sun Oct 14, 2012, 9:47pm
Subject: Re: Buying a new grinder, flood me with suggestions please :D
 

acasabia Said:

I like the mazzer A-type, but I dont know I could justify the cost of that machine over something like the Quamar M80.

Posted October 14, 2012 link

Well, I can certainly say that I love my Mazzer. Consider me biased, but I felt that spending the extra money was worth it. There are a few espresso equipment supply shops which sell Mazzer here, so it was important to me
to buy a brand which is commonly used and can be serviced. It also puts a smile on my face when I see the more upscale coffee shops using it's bigger brothers, like a Super Jolly or a Kony, knowing that inside, they're using
the exact (I think) same burrs which I'm using.  

I've never seen any coffee shop using a Quamar where I live, it's always usually Mazzer, Compak or Nuova Simonellis lines.

I've heard Mazzer grinders have this incredible reputation for reliability and durability. They also score highly in the reviews on this site. That had a huge factor when I made the decision to buy mine.

I think you should bite the bullet and get the Mazzer. You'll get your money's worth IMHO.

 
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Posted Sun Oct 14, 2012, 9:51pm
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While I think the Quamar is a very nice looking machine (a few inches too tall for me though) and the price is right, I also think I'd have to go with the Mazzer as you can't beat the build quality and reputation.
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Location: Jacksonville, Florida
Expertise: Just starting

Espresso: Salvatore One Black
Grinder: Pharos,Rossi RR45OD, Lido,...
Drip: CCD
Roaster: Yang-Chia 800n
Posted Mon Oct 15, 2012, 6:00am
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Why new? A used grinder is the best value, especially if/when you decide to sell it.
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Location: Cambridge, Ontario Canada
Expertise: Professional

Espresso: Rancilio Silvia, VFA Expres...
Grinder: Macap MX/VFA N1464/Kyocera...
Drip: Manual Drip, French Press
Roaster: Behmor 1600 / Sonofresco
Posted Mon Oct 15, 2012, 6:06am
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Go with a New Macap M4/5/MX
All are comparable to the Mazzer but half the price.  The M4 for home use is perfect! I personally use the MX at home and it rocks but it's a monster.  The M4 would be a good fit.
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Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A.
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Mon Oct 15, 2012, 6:24am
Subject: Re: Buying a new grinder, flood me with suggestions please :D
 

I am going to echo, Mazzer, buy used for most value/money.
Used Mazzers in stone ugly looking but top shelf operating condition (usually machines that were used in coffee shops) can be had for as little as $200 or so and with a bit of work on your part can look like new. Used in great visual and mechanical condition can be up to the $500+ range and the new ones, well you know how much they cost.

I also echo I have never seen a Quamar ever used in commercial operation and that may be a hint about quality. It might not be but YMMV!

EDIT to remove brain fart!

I used a SJ with an electronic dark room timer for very consistent results for years, I never weighed coffee other than to dial in the time and grind, then to do a quality check. The timer gave me very nice results with the push of a button.

 
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