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Gig103
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Posted Tue Jun 26, 2012, 3:00pm
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With a Vario, which has a reputation for minimal grounds retention, and having flat burrs, is it as important to do this as it is with conical burr grinders? I just finished using a pretty oily french roast and I was thinking of running it before going back to full city or medium roasts. I know it won't hurt, but it was something I could post about :)
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Posted Tue Jun 26, 2012, 10:58pm
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Using Grindz is supposed to remove coffee oils sticking to the burrs, that will get rancid over the time, not eliminating grounds retention. So there's not much difference between a flat and a conical burr grinder.

 
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Posted Wed Jun 27, 2012, 4:22am
Subject: Re: Grindz frequency on Vario
 

Gig103 Said:

With a Vario, which has a reputation for minimal grounds retention, and having flat burrs, is it as important to do this as it is with conical burr grinders? I just finished using a pretty oily french roast and I was thinking of running it before going back to full city or medium roasts. I know it won't hurt, but it was something I could post about :)

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I have a Vario-W and after using up my free sample of Grindz, I followed the advice I saw here on CoffeeGeek to use rice (basmati rice to be specific as it's what we have in the house) and save a lot of money. The result is lovely clean burrs, even with the oily beans I'm currently using. There is an addedd benefit to using rice because it is intended for human consumption so missing a few tiny particles when brushing out the residue won't hurt us and I don't waste beans by grind flushing with the beans! I do this every time I open a new 1kg bag of beans which is about every 4 weeks. On a similar vein I saw a recommendation to use bicarbonate of soda for the monthly backflush of the espresso machine, but I have to use up a container of Cafiza first!

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Gig103
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Posted Wed Jun 27, 2012, 1:06pm
Subject: Re: Grindz frequency on Vario
 

NobbyR Said:

Using Grindz is supposed to remove coffee oils sticking to the burrs, that will get rancid over the time, not eliminating grounds retention. So there's not much difference between a flat and a conical burr grinder.

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My connection between grounds retention and the oils is build-up, and if the oils prevent the grounds from exiting. But now that you point it out, it makes sense.

RodUK Said:

I have a Vario-W and after using up my free sample of Grindz, I followed the advice I saw here on CoffeeGeek to use rice (basmati rice to be specific as it's what we have in the house) and save a lot of money. The result is lovely clean burrs, even with the oily beans I'm currently using.

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Thanks; I have a three pack that I got with my machine (plus the one Baratza included), after which this will be handy!

RodUK Said:

On a similar vein I saw a recommendation to use bicarbonate of soda for the monthly backflush of the espresso machine, but I have to use up a container of Cafiza first!

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I hadn't heard that one; in what dose would I want to do this? The same 1/2 tsp that Cafiza comes in?
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Posted Thu Jun 28, 2012, 3:25am
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Gig103 Said:

Thanks; I have a three pack that I got with my machine (plus the one Baratza included), after which this will be handy!I hadn't heard that one; in what dose would I want to do this? The same 1/2 tsp that Cafiza comes in?

Posted June 27, 2012 link

Yes, it is also known as baking soda which should be cheaper than a pharmaceutical grade sod. bicarb, I recall the advice being a straight substitution so 1/2 tsp should be fine :)
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