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D4F
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Posted Tue Apr 24, 2012, 2:18pm
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Time to email or call Baratza again.  You have collected enough info.
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Posted Wed May 2, 2012, 9:42am
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D4F Said:

Time to email or call Baratza again.  You have collected enough info.

Posted April 24, 2012 link

Already on it! The replacement refurb is still on my counter, not having been used since I last posted here. My original one from 2009 is either on its way, or is in their hands at the moment. I shipped it out last Friday for them to look at. Incredibly curious to see what's going on. While I wait, got some nice Yirgacheffe and Elida Natural to sip on, so I guess I can sit pretty enough. :)
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Posted Tue May 8, 2012, 6:00am
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This comment may be a little off topic but it relates to the vario. I have been looking at lots of reviews and the big negative thing i have been seeing is complaints about how you need to have the grinder running for the macro adjustments. But then i thought ... that is actually a good idea .. keeps the beans from getting jammed in between the burrs when you decrease the grind size if the machine is not running .. which could put strain on the cam.  I  get the feeling people dont think about that when they write reviews. since the new vario-w has it in the user  guide as a suggestion ( i was debating the cost vs the value) to do the macro while the grinder is running for that reason (they dont go into detail but that suggestion made me think about it for a second and i figured out why). Am I nuts or do i just over think things that people should think about before immediately deciding that this is a negative as a posed to a smart idea for using most  grinders when decreasing the grind size by any significant amount.
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Posted Tue May 8, 2012, 7:01am
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chefryan Said:

This comment may be a little off topic but it relates to the vario. I have been looking at lots of reviews and the big negative thing i have been seeing is complaints about how you need to have the grinder running for the macro adjustments. But then i thought ... that is actually a good idea .. keeps the beans from getting jammed in between the burrs when you decrease the grind size if the machine is not running .. which could put strain on the cam.  I  get the feeling people dont think about that when they write reviews. since the new vario-w has it in the user  guide as a suggestion ( i was debating the cost vs the value) to do the macro while the grinder is running for that reason (they dont go into detail but that suggestion made me think about it for a second and i figured out why). Am I nuts or do i just over think things that people should think about before immediately deciding that this is a negative as a posed to a smart idea for using most  grinders when decreasing the grind size by any significant amount.

Posted May 8, 2012 link

Ryan, this is a good point.
Basically, even those with Mazzer SJ's and such (a way more powerful motor) were always advised to run the grinder when tightening the grind.
Usually, it's not an issue when going coarser.

 
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Posted Tue May 8, 2012, 7:05am
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Most people would see the need to run the grinder whilst changing the grind adjustment as a necessity rather than just a matter of opinion. I know I do anyway! I wouldn't dream of messing with the macro lever without having it running first. Also I thought this was standard practice for any grinder (I may be wrong)
Either way, I don't see it as a negative, and I'd rather have it running than take the chance of something sticking with my lovely vario! :D
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Posted Tue May 8, 2012, 6:46pm
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Im glad to see I still have a few of my marbles left.  I had seen a few reviews of the vario stating it was a bizarre thing to do.  I dont have the vario yet but do intend on heading down the shop i bought my magica from to buy the grinder and maybe a few toys to add to it.
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Posted Thu May 24, 2012, 10:22am
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I have my new Vario and I love the speed and timer and consistency. I haven't dialed it in yet because "everyone" here seems to be on the 2nd coarse notch, and I'm there but even on "C", so far I'm getting 12 second shots.  I'll be dropping to the lowest coarse notch for my next test, at about W.

I'm sure I'll find the right spot soon, but I was wondering if I should adjust my grinder with the included tool? I would think that if I made it finer, then that means I wouldn't go so low. Does it really matter where I have to put it for the right grind as long as it isn't on something like "1B" which wouldn't give me room to play?
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Posted Thu May 24, 2012, 10:26am
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Gig103 Said:

I'm sure I'll find the right spot soon, but I was wondering if I should adjust my grinder with the included tool? I would think that if I made it finer, then that means I wouldn't go so low. Does it really matter where I have to put it for the right grind as long as it isn't on something like "1B" which wouldn't give me room to play?

Posted May 24, 2012 link

Yes!! Do the calibration with the "oil can" tool...looks like one to me!
It's ezey peezy.

Depends on your coffee as well. Is your coffee old?
I sometimes advise folks NOT to use crap, old coffee when dialing in, as you've just spent $400+ on the grinder, and their worrying about another $12 of coffee...??
Shouldn't take but 1 calibration adjustment and maybe 3-4 sink shots to dial in....with 5+day old freshly roasted quality coffee.
Don't forget...crap in, merde out!

 
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Posted Thu May 24, 2012, 10:46am
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IMAWriter Said:

Yes!! Do the calibration with the "oil can" tool...looks like one to me!
It's ezey peezy.

Depends on your coffee as well. Is your coffee old?
I sometimes advise folks NOT to use crap, old coffee when dialing in, as you've just spent $400+ on the grinder, and their worrying about another $12 of coffee...??
Shouldn't take but 1 calibration adjustment and maybe 3-4 sink shots to dial in....with 5+day old freshly roasted quality coffee.
Don't forget...crap in, merde out!

Posted May 24, 2012 link

It's coffee roasted 10 days ago -- stupid Fedex Ground and a weekend messed me up! I will only order from places 2-3 day from me from now on, but it was a Woot deal.

I figured I'd use it out of the box and see, but I will dump out the beans and give it a quick adjustment.
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Grinder: Forte, OE Pharos,...
Vac Pot: Adcraft SS, Yama 8 cup
Drip: Brazen, Kalita, Chemex,...
Roaster: Behmor 1600+, CO/UFO combo
Posted Thu May 24, 2012, 1:00pm
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Gig103 Said:

It's coffee roasted 10 days ago -- stupid Fedex Ground and a weekend messed me up! I will only order from places 2-3 day from me from now on, but it was a Woot deal.

I figured I'd use it out of the box and see, but I will dump out the beans and give it a quick adjustment.

Posted May 24, 2012 link

NO!...don't dump. For many espresso blends, 10 days post roast is the OPTIMUM time for drinking!
Should be just fine for 13-14 days post roast date.

Most espresso blends and SO's (Single Origin) coffee needs at least 5 days "rest" before it's ready for prime time.
You might notice as the coffee ages, you'll maybe tighten the grind a tiny increment every few days as it ages.
Don't change your tamp or distribution, our even the dose.

 
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