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Gig103
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Joined: 12 Feb 2012
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Location: Arizona
Expertise: I like coffee

Espresso: Crossland CC1
Grinder: Baratza Vario
Drip: French press!
Posted Wed May 2, 2012, 1:38pm
Subject: Re: which do you prefer ?
 

I've had some issues with my Preciso, but the overall consensus is that it's better than the Rocky at this point. The nice thing about buying it, instead of going for the Vario, is that if you want to upgrade to a weight based grinder later, there is the Esatto add-on to the Preciso.

As far as the machine, I chose the CC1 over the Silvia, despite the reputation Rancilio has. The CC1 has the PID, and an auto-filling boiler during steaming, and a quicker transition to/from steam. And SeattleCoffeeGear included a bottomless portafilter and $100 off the Preciso -- which almost pays for an Esatto.  I do really like my Crossland.
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KennyH
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Location: Missouri
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Espresso: Lelit PL041
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Vac Pot: Yama 8 Cup
Posted Wed May 2, 2012, 3:34pm
Subject: Re: which do you prefer ?
 

sn_85 Said:

Could you clarify?  First you say the Preciso is not going to be adequate then you say there may not be a big difference between the Preciso and Vario.  You finish with recommending the Preciso from the list.  Just a little contradictory imo.  Any reason why you don't seem very high on the preciso?  It's certainly not a tank like a mazzer but as far as grinds go it's more than adequate and would do the job for the OP.

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Yeah, that was somewhat confusing. In terms of actual grind quality, they're not that far apart, but the Vario seems to beat the Preciso in terms of usability. Maybe not so much if you buy the Esatto, but by the time you do that, you could have bought a Vario for the same price.
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BarryR
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Espresso: CC1
Grinder: Baratza Preciso
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Posted Wed May 2, 2012, 6:09pm
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KennyH Said:

Yeah, that was somewhat confusing. In terms of actual grind quality, they're not that far apart, but the Vario seems to beat the Preciso in terms of usability. Maybe not so much if you buy the Esatto, but by the time you do that, you could have bought a Vario for the same price.

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I've got a Preciso (and CC1) arriving tomorrow from SCG (my naked portafilter came two days ago, but I haven't found much use for it without the CC1!)
I'm going to use the grinder for drip, press pot and espresso.
I figured I wouldn't leave the beans in the hopper so I might as well weigh them prior to grinding (might put in an extra fraction of a gram to make up for lost grinds).
Based on this, I didn't think the better timer on the Vario would be a big help.
Does that make sense, or am I missing something?
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sn_85
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Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Quick Mill Andreja Premium
Grinder: Baratza Vario
Posted Wed May 2, 2012, 9:36pm
Subject: Re: which do you prefer ?
 

BarryR Said:

I've got a Preciso (and CC1) arriving tomorrow from SCG (my naked portafilter came two days ago, but I haven't found much use for it without the CC1!)
I'm going to use the grinder for drip, press pot and espresso.
I figured I wouldn't leave the beans in the hopper so I might as well weigh them prior to grinding (might put in an extra fraction of a gram to make up for lost grinds).
Based on this, I didn't think the better timer on the Vario would be a big help.
Does that make sense, or am I missing something?

Posted May 2, 2012 link

Nope, it makes perfect sense.  I fancied the idea of getting the Esatto for my Preciso but since I like to keep my beans stored in an airtight container I pre-weigh my beans instead of keeping the hopper filled.
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KennyH
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Espresso: Lelit PL041
Grinder: OE Pharos, Hario Skerton
Vac Pot: Yama 8 Cup
Posted Thu May 3, 2012, 6:44pm
Subject: Re: which do you prefer ?
 

BarryR Said:

I've got a Preciso (and CC1) arriving tomorrow from SCG (my naked portafilter came two days ago, but I haven't found much use for it without the CC1!)
I'm going to use the grinder for drip, press pot and espresso.
I figured I wouldn't leave the beans in the hopper so I might as well weigh them prior to grinding (might put in an extra fraction of a gram to make up for lost grinds).
Based on this, I didn't think the better timer on the Vario would be a big help.
Does that make sense, or am I missing something?

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The timer wouldn't help much for that, as it's generally used for espresso. Also, some people believe the Preciso is better than the Vario for course grinding due to its conical burrs, so don't worry about your purchase.
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truebenny
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Espresso: Presso
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Posted Wed May 9, 2012, 2:23pm
Subject: Re: which do you prefer ?
 

As far as the machine, I chose the CC1 over the Silvia, despite the reputation Rancilio has. The CC1 has the PID, and an auto-filling boiler during steaming, and a quicker transition to/from steam. And SeattleCoffeeGear included a bottomless portafilter and $100 off the Preciso -- which almost pays for an Esatto.  I do really like my Crossland.

so the CC1 comes stock with a bottomless PF ? or was it separate purchase ?
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truebenny
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Posted Wed May 9, 2012, 2:24pm
Subject: Re: which do you prefer ?
 

BTW, does anyone know of another forum i could look at to buy newish/used grinders and machines ?
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emradguy
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emradguy
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Espresso: Duetto II; Twist v2
Grinder: M Major, Macap M4 x2, VDD...
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Roaster: H-B "List of Favorites"
Posted Wed May 9, 2012, 2:29pm
Subject: Re: which do you prefer ?
 

truebenny Said:

so the CC1 comes stock with a bottomless PF ? or was it separate purchase ?

Posted May 9, 2012 link

I saw a post one or two days ago in a different thread here regarding that.  The person who posted said his CC1 came with it.  I don't know for sure if that was a special deal from one of the suppliers or whether it's stock (though I got the impression it was the latter).  I do know that it was not purchased separately or as an accessory by the customer.

OK, I found it.  It's in the Espresso Q&A Forum.  topic is called: "Basic Newbie dosing and grinding question" poster was BarryR

 
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truebenny
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Espresso: Presso
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Posted Wed May 9, 2012, 5:41pm
Subject: Re: which do you prefer ?
 

emradguy Said:

I saw a post one or two days ago in a different thread here regarding that.  The person who posted said his CC1 came with it.  I don't know for sure if that was a special deal from one of the suppliers or whether it's stock (though I got the impression it was the latter).  I do know that it was not purchased separately or as an accessory by the customer.

OK, I found it.  It's in the Espresso Q&A Forum.  topic is called: "Basic Newbie dosing and grinding question" poster was BarryR

Posted May 9, 2012 link

thank you for the input, however i just confirmed it with SCG that it does not come standard with the CC1
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JasonBrandtLewis
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JasonBrandtLewis
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Espresso: Elektra T1 - La Valentina -...
Grinder: Mahlkönig K30 Vario -...
Vac Pot: Yama 5-cup
Drip: CCD, Chemex
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Posted Wed May 9, 2012, 8:37pm
Subject: Re: which do you prefer ?
 

truebenny Said:

BTW, does anyone know of another forum i could look at to buy newish/used grinders and machines ?

Posted May 9, 2012 link

Here.

 
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