Posted Thu Dec 29, 2011, 4:22pm Subject: Lelit PL53 or Rocky?
Hi Everyone ,
I know, I know, another thread about the Rocky.
I have been researching grinders for the last few weeks, and like every big purchase it's driving me crazy. I (think) have it narrowed down to the PL53 or the Rocky Doserless. Yes, one is stepless and the other isn't. Quite frankly, the stepless adjustment having never used one is a bit daunting to me. I feel that it would be too easy to loose a great grind setting, or that I would waste too much coffee trying to dial it in every time I change beans. I'm not too concerned about Press coffee as my Inifinity does a good coarse grind.
The Rocky is likely the more durable of the two, and the Lelit IMO is better looking and compliments my PL41 quite nicely :) I'll mainly be using this for espresso. Either would work well I guess, but I would very much appreciate any insightful opinions the board might have on the choices that I have narrowed it down to.
The Rocky pretty much tops my budget at this point, and I've also considered the Virtuoso Preciso. Decisions, Decisions.
Posted Thu Dec 29, 2011, 8:43pm Subject: Re: Lelit PL53 or Rocky?
I don't own either one, but my questionable opinion from the peanut gallery is get the Lelit. You'll get used to how much the adjustment is going to change the grind when starting with new beans. And if you're worried about losing a great grind setting, consider that you wouldn't have found that perfect setting in the first place with a stepped grinder.
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Posted Fri Dec 30, 2011, 12:52am Subject: Re: Lelit PL53 or Rocky?
Both grinders have conical burrs. The Le'lit PL53 is a small, stepless grinder with a steel chute (no static), the Rocky has relatively wide steps that can sometimes leave you stuck in between two steps for proper extraction, which is highly frustrating, and a plastic chute (static).
Out of the two I'd get the Le'lit.
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DoubleVanos Said:
I feel that it would be too easy to loose a great grind setting, or that I would waste too much coffee trying to dial it in every time I change beans.
1) You would have to "dial in" a stepped grinder when changing beans, too, wouldn't you? 2) How much coffee do you think it takes to dial in a grinder? 3) How much do the beans cost?
Have you read any of the former threads? If so, you really shouldn't even consider it.
DoubleVanos Said:
Quite frankly, the stepless adjustment having never used one is a bit daunting to me. I feel that it would be too easy to loose a great grind setting, or that I would waste too much coffee trying to dial it in every time I change beans.
There's no fixed "great grind" setting. The ability to dial in to the exact grind that you need is a desirable trait in a grinder. A stepped grinder doesn't eliminate the need to dial in, as pointed out above.
Don't be afraid of what you haven't tried either. Surely at some point you didn't own a grinder or espresso machine.
DoubleVanos Said:
The Rocky is likely the more durable of the two, and the Lelit IMO is better looking and compliments my PL41 quite nicely
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Posted Fri Dec 30, 2011, 10:04am Subject: Re: Lelit PL53 or Rocky?
NobbyR Said:
Both grinders have conical burrs. The Le'lit PL53 is a small, stepless grinder with a steel chute (no static), the Rocky has relatively wide steps that can sometimes leave you stuck in between two steps for proper extraction, which is highly frustrating, and a plastic chute (static).
Nobby, static is not generated by plastic or steel chute, it has to do with tangential speed of burrs and weather conditions, now of course conical burrs have much lower tangential speed... Also I agree that stepless is better than stepped, still you can very easily compensate the in between steps situation by slightly increasing-decreasing ground quantity And again, go doserless... Ciao, Pietro
Posted Fri Dec 30, 2011, 12:26pm Subject: Re: Lelit PL53 or Rocky?
Thanks for all the replies. I was leaning toward the PL53, and you guys have made many valid points. It is much appreciated.
I did a bit more looking around and came across the Ascaso grinders, specifically the I-steel i-2. The regular i-2 is a bit too tall for my kitchen. These grinders are very similar to the Pl53(same burr size and stepless adjustment) and I have found them selling for a bit less.
I will report back once I have finally made the purchase.
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