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amys
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Posted Mon Dec 26, 2011, 1:51am
Subject: Grinder recommendations - low budget, portafilter compatible
 

Hi there -

I'm looking to buy a grinder in the $150-200 range and feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the choices. All I really care about is that it's good for espresso and it can grind directly into a portafilter without making a huge mess, and it would be nice but not vital if it didn't have to be babysat while grinding. (For context, I have a Saeco Aroma with a 55mm pressurize portafilter.) So far the Breville Smart Grinder looks best, but there are so many options I'm having a hard time evaluating. Also, I'm seeing talk of portafilter funnels that I assume go with grinders not outfitted to hold a portafilter, but are these compatible with all grinders?

Thanks for any help!
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Posted Mon Dec 26, 2011, 3:27am
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I posted about this grinder a while back - no telling how good a job it does, but the price is in your budget and it can grind into your portafilter.

EricBNC Said:

Krups GX610050 Professional Die Cast Conical Burr Grinder

"... from 20 different textures ranging from very fine for espresso machines to very course for use in a French press. Next, determine the number of coffee drinkers and adjust the quantity setting from 2 to 20 cups ...The machine automatically stops once the designated quantity has been achieved and the coffee extracts easily via a removable container. Topped with a large capacity hopper, the grinder fills effortlessly and provides easy access to its removable burr for cleaning. 150 watts"

Click Here (www.amazon.com)

Looks like a Graef CM80

Click Here (www.amazon.de)

and the Sunbeam EM0480 - but the burrs are a different design

http://www.coffeeco.com.au/articles/sunbeamgrinder.html

Could be interesting for $100.

Posted December 7, 2011 link


 
I chew coffee beans with my teeth while gargling with 195 F water to enjoy coffee. What is this "coffee brewing" device you speak of?
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Posted Tue Dec 27, 2011, 7:33am
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Amy, your email address is not showing up, send me an email.

 
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Posted Tue Dec 27, 2011, 4:16pm
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amys Said:

Hi there -

I'm looking to buy a grinder in the $150-200 range and feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the choices. All I really care about is that it's good for espresso and it can grind directly into a portafilter without making a huge mess, and it would be nice but not vital if it didn't have to be babysat while grinding. (For context, I have a Saeco Aroma with a 55mm pressurize portafilter.) So far the Breville Smart Grinder looks best, but there are so many options I'm having a hard time evaluating. Also, I'm seeing talk of portafilter funnels that I assume go with grinders not outfitted to hold a portafilter, but are these compatible with all grinders?

Thanks for any help!

Posted December 26, 2011 link

Hi, I may not be the best qualified to give you advice, still it seem that there is nothing worthy Espresso below the 200 $ target and that the minimum stays in between 2-300, Funnels are not a substitute for portafilter holder, rather meant to catch grinds that are flown around, about baby sitting just keep in mind that any decent espresso grinder grinds 1.1-1.3 grams /second so your baby sitting would be very short : whenever you hear 20-30 second grinding time is because grinder (even new..) got wrong set of burrs)
Ciao, pietro
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Posted Tue Dec 27, 2011, 4:24pm
Subject: Re: Grinder recommendations - low budget, portafilter compatible
 

EricBNC Said:

I posted about this grinder a while back - no telling how good a job it does, but the price is in your budget and it can grind into your portafilter.

Posted December 26, 2011 link

Die cast burrs do not have the mechanical precision required by a quality grinder and if they work correctly espresso grade is just a chance: the best burrs are precision machined beause they guarantee total adjustability and uniform particles : of course die cast are cheaper than machined burrs:
Ciao, Pietro
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Posted Thu Dec 29, 2011, 9:14am
Subject: Re: Grinder recommendations - low budget, portafilter compatible
 

cappuccinoboy Said:

it seem that there is nothing worthy Espresso below the 200 $ target and that the minimum stays in between 200-300

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+1

 
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calblacksmith
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Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Thu Dec 29, 2011, 9:28am
Subject: Re: Grinder recommendations - low budget, portafilter compatible
 

unless you buy used.

 
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EricBNC
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Espresso: QM Silvano, LP Stradivarius,...
Grinder: K30, Major, Preciso, Pharos,...
Vac Pot: Sunbeam C30, Bodum Santos...
Drip: Bonavita BV-1800,...
Roaster: Behmor, Melitta, Fresh...
Posted Thu Dec 29, 2011, 1:00pm
Subject: Re: Grinder recommendations - low budget, portafilter compatible
 

cappuccinoboy Said:

Die cast burrs do not have the mechanical precision required by a quality grinder and if they work correctly espresso grade is just a chance: the best burrs are precision machined beause they guarantee total adjustability and uniform particles : of course die cast are cheaper than machined burrs:
Ciao, Pietro

Posted December 27, 2011 link

The machine is die cast metal - the body is not plastic - it is made from polished metal. Not the burrs though - these have machining marks on the flat surfaces - not something you would see on die cast burrs - the confusion is likely one of translation, not engineering.  The machine is essentially a relabeled Sunbeam - espresso enthusiasts in Australia consider this machine to be a decent entry level espresso grinder.

Does the photo of the burr set (found in the link I provided) look like it is die cast?

EricBNC: Krups Burr.jpg
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I chew coffee beans with my teeth while gargling with 195 F water to enjoy coffee. What is this "coffee brewing" device you speak of?
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calblacksmith
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calblacksmith
Joined: 25 Nov 2007
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Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A.
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Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Fri Dec 30, 2011, 8:05am
Subject: Re: Grinder recommendations - low budget, portafilter compatible
 

LOL! Eric, yes they look die cast and OH, BTW, read the heading of the picture....

"Professional DIE CAST conical burr    grinder, black"

 
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EricBNC
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Espresso: QM Silvano, LP Stradivarius,...
Grinder: K30, Major, Preciso, Pharos,...
Vac Pot: Sunbeam C30, Bodum Santos...
Drip: Bonavita BV-1800,...
Roaster: Behmor, Melitta, Fresh...
Posted Fri Dec 30, 2011, 8:13am
Subject: Re: Grinder recommendations - low budget, portafilter compatible
 

calblacksmith Said:

LOL! Eric, yes they look die cast and OH, BTW, read the heading of the picture....

"Professional DIE CAST conical burr    grinder, black"

Posted December 30, 2011 link

Did you miss the word "grinder" too?  The machining marks on the burrs begs the question - why bother if the burrs are cast?  I think the cast part of the description is the metal shell - maybe I am wrong but you need to do better than that misquote of the photo title.

look at this photo's description - these can't be relied upon - that is a very flat conical burr.

EricBNC: krups burr.jpg
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I chew coffee beans with my teeth while gargling with 195 F water to enjoy coffee. What is this "coffee brewing" device you speak of?
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