triplesec Senior Member Joined: 2 Sep 2011 Posts: 15 Location: Ottawa Canada Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Sun Nov 13, 2011, 11:45am Subject: Rocky Grinder and
when i got my new Rocky they, the store said to just grind espresso beans. now my wife is grinding Verona beans for French Press, also. i wonder if that will damage the grinder? any help or refereeing would be helpful. thanks. so should she halt and desist and let me use the grinder just for espresso beans?
Posted Sun Nov 13, 2011, 12:23pm Subject: Re: Rocky Grinder and
There's no such thing as an espresso bean, plain and simple. Roasters can profile a roast with the intent of making a tasty shot of espresso, but that doesn't mean anything in terms of how you can use those "espresso roast" beans, or whether or not you can use other roasts and blends for espresso. Any bean can be used for espresso, any "espresso" bean can be used for another brew method. The results, of course, will not always be perfect, but there's no harm in trying.
Makes one wonder about the quality of a coffee retailer that doesn't seem to know one of the most basic points about espresso...
TonyVan Senior Member Joined: 24 May 2010 Posts: 269 Location: Pacific Northwest Expertise: I love coffee
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Posted Sun Nov 13, 2011, 1:23pm Subject: Re: Rocky Grinder and
And even if there were a difference in the beans, the idea that a medium or coarse grind would ruin a "coffee grinder" is patently ridiculous. I used a Rocky for many years - still do when using a La Pavoni - and I can assure you that it has happily and painlessly survived thousands of mornings preparing French press as well as the 49mm baskets.
Posted Sun Nov 13, 2011, 2:11pm Subject: Re: Rocky Grinder and
triplesec Said:
when i got my new Rocky they, the store said to just grind espresso beans. now my wife is grinding Verona beans for French Press, also. i wonder if that will damage the grinder? any help or refereeing would be helpful. thanks. so should she halt and desist and let me use the grinder just for espresso beans?
She should only grind coffee beans - what are Verona beans anyway? Something from the health food store? A form of pinto or lima? Something magical like Jack's beans?
I chew coffee beans with my teeth while gargling with 195 F water to enjoy coffee. What is this "coffee brewing" device you speak of?
triplesec Senior Member Joined: 2 Sep 2011 Posts: 15 Location: Ottawa Canada Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Sun Nov 13, 2011, 2:21pm Subject: Re: Rocky Grinder and
veroa blend is a starbucks bean, and the grinder is a Rocky. i'll go with the first two replies and grind both beans .. Separately, verona for FP and the so called Espresso beans for espresso. thanks for clarification and help.
They must have meant beans that come from the famous espresso plant. LOL
But seriously, like said before by Steve coffee beans with a certain kind of roast are sold under the lable of espresso. As long as your Rocky grinds with the right fineness/coarseness, you can use it for any kind of brewing method you like. There's no danger involved, and you won't risk the waranty.
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Posted Mon Nov 14, 2011, 9:42am Subject: Re: Rocky Grinder and
You can grind any coffee bean for sure but for best quality, grind FRESH beans, that is an item that is nearly impossible to find at the green mermaid, the other thing to look for when grinding beans is properly roasted beans, again something that is hard to come by at the green mermaid.
Fresh beans is less than two weeks FROM THE DAY IT WAS ROASTED. If the bag has a "best by" date, the beans the bag hold are quite likely hopelessly stale, months old.
Find an artisan roaster that can deliver to you within 3 days by mail and you will be fine. Local is often best but I have had a few local roasters who didn't know their back side from a hole in the ground when roasting beans, they tried to roast to the burnt to a crisp starbucks model and needless to say, their roasting equipment went to an auction house when they ran out of money to pour into a business with a bad operating model.
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Posted Mon Nov 14, 2011, 4:52pm Subject: Re: Rocky Grinder and
My thoughts are that the store was working on the premise of a dedicated grinder for espresso to avoid having to "dial" in the grinder again for espresso once you have used it for French Press. Easy mistake to make if they are more familiar with stepless grinders.
It wouldn't be particularly relevant for the Rocky since this is a stepped grinder (ie discrete clicks between adjustments) though you could potentially get a residue when grinding for espresso of the other blend with a coarser grind unless you run some of your beans for espresso through it first.
Either way as others have said it shouldn't have any effect on the grinder.
Posted Mon Nov 14, 2011, 5:28pm Subject: Re: Rocky Grinder and
al_bongo may have hit on the reason for their instructions - unless the grinder is running while adjusting for finer grinding (no silly jokes here - seriousness only) there is a very real possibility of locking the grinder up. Going from fine to coarse isn't too risky but the coarse to fine is probably the source of many warranty claims.
Also - just because it looks empty does not mean it is empty - a layer of coarse grains torqued down on by the tightened burrs is sufficient to jam up the works.
Always run the motor while adjusting your grinder.
I chew coffee beans with my teeth while gargling with 195 F water to enjoy coffee. What is this "coffee brewing" device you speak of?
Posted Tue Nov 15, 2011, 12:44pm Subject: Re: Rocky Grinder and
The store from which you purchased the grinder, do they also sell fart cushions and posters of monkeys dressed in human clothing?
If they don't, they should.
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