Posted Tue Mar 15, 2011, 12:41pm Subject: Re: Does anybody know the new Breville BCG800 (Smart Grinder)?
Looking straight down into grind container ...
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"Coffee leads men to trifle away their time, scald their chops, and spend their money, all for a little base, black, thick, nasty, bitter, stinking nauseous puddle water." ~The Women's Petition Against Coffee, 1674
Posted Tue Mar 15, 2011, 12:42pm Subject: Re: Does anybody know the new Breville BCG800 (Smart Grinder)?
Hopper with lid attached (lid has nice seal on it) ...
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"Coffee leads men to trifle away their time, scald their chops, and spend their money, all for a little base, black, thick, nasty, bitter, stinking nauseous puddle water." ~The Women's Petition Against Coffee, 1674
Posted Tue Mar 15, 2011, 12:43pm Subject: Re: Does anybody know the new Breville BCG800 (Smart Grinder)?
Inside of hopper showing hopper lock device (all you do is push hopper on to top of breville, then turn lock shown to lock in place) ...
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"Coffee leads men to trifle away their time, scald their chops, and spend their money, all for a little base, black, thick, nasty, bitter, stinking nauseous puddle water." ~The Women's Petition Against Coffee, 1674
Posted Tue Mar 15, 2011, 12:43pm Subject: Re: Does anybody know the new Breville BCG800 (Smart Grinder)?
Top down shot of burrs ...
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"Coffee leads men to trifle away their time, scald their chops, and spend their money, all for a little base, black, thick, nasty, bitter, stinking nauseous puddle water." ~The Women's Petition Against Coffee, 1674
Posted Tue Mar 15, 2011, 12:44pm Subject: Re: Does anybody know the new Breville BCG800 (Smart Grinder)?
Best side shot of burrs I could get ...
Tally-ho,
Len
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"Coffee leads men to trifle away their time, scald their chops, and spend their money, all for a little base, black, thick, nasty, bitter, stinking nauseous puddle water." ~The Women's Petition Against Coffee, 1674
Posted Tue Mar 15, 2011, 4:03pm Subject: Re: Does anybody know the new Breville BCG800 (Smart Grinder)?
Nice grinder. I have had mine for a week and it has worked just like I wanted it to. It is easy to set, easy to use and unlike the Baratza Vario there is no mess. Once I got the grind set for drip it stays there. THere are no sliders to come loose and move around at will. It makes a bit of noise but not objectionable. The Baratza Vario lasted three days in the kitchen so the Breville is a keeper. I will never use it for espresso so this feature is not important. The local Surlatable store had the Breville in stock and honored the 20% off Bed Bath and Beyond coupon.
It is what it is...a very well constructed, attractive and functional stainless steel (very little plastic) low volume grinder at a very attractive price. It fit my needs and time will tell if it is as good as it looks.
bluehaze Senior Member Joined: 9 Feb 2011 Posts: 119 Location: Florida Expertise: Just starting
Espresso: Isomac Rituale Grinder: Baratza Vario
Posted Tue Mar 15, 2011, 4:21pm Subject: Re: Does anybody know the new Breville BCG800 (Smart Grinder)?
Burrs are identical to the Burrs on the BES860 with the exception the bottom burr doesn't require the nut on top to hold it in place on the BES860, Same grind amount dial, same functions all around the grind adjustment knob even feels exactly the same as the grind adjustment on the BES860. Grind looks identical and is a bit warm to the touch just like on the BES860. If you've ever used both grinders it will become readily apparent that the mechanics of both grinders are essentially exactly the same just one is modified to be a standalone. Anyone who feels diiferently I suggest head to a Williams Sonoma and ask for a demo of both machines then come back and tell me they are not the same :)
I suspect the reason the bottom burr was modified to be held in place with a nut on top was so espresso users could easily add the shims that are suspiciously and conveniently available right from the get go to modify the machine for espresso grind. The range of adjustability is just not there like it is on the Vario.
It is a good grinder for the money no doubt in my mind but after playing with one firsthand I can assure you the grind that comes out of this machine is the exact same as the grind that comes out of the BES860. The Vario is a better grinder no doubt, but if your on a budget this thing is hard to beat for all the features you get, I would take this over a Rocky any day just due to the timed dosing and because I would only be using it as an espresso grinder anyway and the grind quality is very similiar, they both do clump alot though. The only questionable factor for me would be how long the machine would last.
Posted Tue Mar 15, 2011, 4:40pm Subject: Re: Does anybody know the new Breville BCG800 (Smart Grinder)?
canon Said:
Nice grinder. I have had mine for a week and it has worked just like I wanted it to. It is easy to set, easy to use and unlike the Baratza Vario there is no mess. Once I got the grind set for drip it stays there. THere are no sliders to come loose and move around at will. It makes a bit of noise but not objectionable. The Baratza Vario lasted three days in the kitchen so the Breville is a keeper. I will never use it for espresso so this feature is not important. The local Surlatable store had the Breville in stock and honored the 20% off Bed Bath and Beyond coupon.
It is what it is...a very well constructed, attractive and functional stainless steel (very little plastic) low volume grinder at a very attractive price. It fit my needs and time will tell if it is as good as it looks.
I was also very impressed with the no mess, even after multiple grinds. I have not tried the espresso grind yet; however I understand that if it does not grind as fine as I desire that there is that shim kit I can get from Breville. I did not fine the noise objectionable at all; in fact it was quieter than my zass hand grinder, and alot quieter than my Krups superauto.
Len
"Coffee leads men to trifle away their time, scald their chops, and spend their money, all for a little base, black, thick, nasty, bitter, stinking nauseous puddle water." ~The Women's Petition Against Coffee, 1674
Posted Tue Mar 15, 2011, 6:58pm Subject: Re: Does anybody know the new Breville BCG800 (Smart Grinder)?
I would definitely give the Vario the nod in the espresso range but I think the Breville is a better brew grinder & features wise there is no comparison.
Posted Tue Mar 15, 2011, 8:39pm Subject: Re: Does anybody know the new Breville BCG800 (Smart Grinder)?
JVBorella Said:
I would definitely give the Vario the nod in the espresso range but I think the Breville is a better brew grinder & features wise there is no comparison.
Before or after the breville supplied espresso shim is applied to the grinder?
Len
"Coffee leads men to trifle away their time, scald their chops, and spend their money, all for a little base, black, thick, nasty, bitter, stinking nauseous puddle water." ~The Women's Petition Against Coffee, 1674
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