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Posted Sat Dec 18, 2010, 9:01pm
Subject: Vario espresso setting
 

I calibrated my grinder to where the burrs start to chirp at the "bottom" of the finest macro click and the motor starts to labor slightly with the micro setting in the middle. The perfect grind for my machine is usually right where the motor starts to labor a bit. Is that normal?

 
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Posted Wed Dec 22, 2010, 7:44pm
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Bump - I just got my Vario refurb (oh boy!) and am wondering about these settings too.

Assuming correct calibration, is the lowest macro range all you'd ever use for espresso?

 
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Posted Wed Dec 22, 2010, 8:48pm
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I_bean_good Said:

Bump - I just got my Vario refurb (oh boy!) and am wondering about these settings too.

Assuming correct calibration, is the lowest macro range all you'd ever use for espresso?

Posted December 22, 2010 link

Yeah, it doesn't move a whole lot. If I'm using a bean that requires a coarser grind, sometimes it'll barely get into the next coarser click.

My reason for asking this question in the first place is I'm a little concerned about damaging or excessively wearing the burrs.

 
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Posted Wed Dec 22, 2010, 11:36pm
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IMO, the motor should labor NOT AT ALL until you start grinding.

 
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Posted Thu Dec 23, 2010, 5:41am
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IMAWriter Said:

IMO, the motor should labor NOT AT ALL until you start grinding.

Posted December 22, 2010 link

Yeah, but if I have it set there, the shots come out in 10 seconds flat! I haven't checked my brew pressure yet; could it be set too high?

 
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Posted Thu Dec 23, 2010, 10:18pm
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Mine is set about the same, and I need to go a few positions finer than where the motor starts to labor on the micro.
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Posted Fri Dec 24, 2010, 9:35am
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day 2 trying to dial this thing in for my espresso machine, fresh from a factory calibration*

(this puppy is so fast and fluffy!)

with the finest macro setting and the fine adjustment now all the way at the bottom, I'm still pulling ristrettos - I guess I'm going to have to move the macro down one notch

*out of the box, I could hear the burrs start snicking with fine at about 1/2-2/3 the way up, no real motor laboring

 
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Posted Fri Dec 24, 2010, 9:41am
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FWIW, many here (myself included) have the macro 1 notch from the top and the Micro somewhere toward the middle (with adjustments up or down via the Micro.
That said, that particular setting most likely means the grinder is adjusted toward the espresso side of things, and a true french press grind may be difficult, even at the lowest macro setting, though mine seems to give me nice press grind...not chunky or containing too many fines. As always, YMMV.

 
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Posted Fri Dec 24, 2010, 9:48am
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I_bean_good Said:

day 2 trying to dial this thing in for my espresso machine, fresh from a factory calibration*
*out of the box, I could hear the burrs start snicking with fine at about 1/2-2/3 the way up, no real motor laboring

Posted December 24, 2010 link

This may or may not be suitable for your particular machine.

with the finest macro setting and the fine adjustment now all the way at the bottom, I'm still pulling ristrettos - I guess I'm going to have to move the macro down one notch

I wouldn't, that would be possibly too coarse of a Macro adjustment. Instead re-calibrate your Micro setting with your supplied 2mm calibration tool so that the burrs start 'snicking' coarser, so that the Micro arm is towards the bottom (coarser)., I'd suggest approx ¼ of the way up from the very bottom. That should open thing up enough to get your shots in a more suitable time range for you.


P.S. I was composing the post & didn't see Rob's post till after I posted., & somehow I missed it.., but Rob's correct for the factory default setting & where I have my Vario adjusted too, & works perfectly for my Silvia with lots of adjustability left there to go much finer & coarser.

 
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Posted Fri Dec 24, 2010, 10:42am
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Thanks for the guidance. The support on this site is really great!

This grinder is so much better than my SJ I can't believe it.  Perhaps I needed new burrs, but the convenience and cleanliness in addition to the great grind - this may really be the ultimate home grinder.

I'm so glad I found coffeegeek!

 
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